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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Toby Young Article on the LGBT health panel

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Ali1cedowntherabbithole · 21/03/2019 22:21

Quotes Penny Mordaunt from last weeks webchat (if that is an accurate description) and cites You Gov poll in which just 18% of respondents agreed with the proposed changes to the GRA.

My enemy's enemy and all that.

www.spectator.co.uk/2019/03/why-the-lgbt-health-panel-isnt-diverse-enough/

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GCAcademic · 21/03/2019 22:31

He’s changed his tune. He published some utter drivel on gender last year - he admitted he didn’t know what he was talking about, but nonetheless came down in favour of the TRAs:

www.spectator.co.uk/2018/10/science-is-on-the-side-of-the-trans-activists/

OldCrone · 21/03/2019 22:54

Maybe after writing that column where he admitted he didn't know what he was talking about he went off and 'educated himself'. Shame Penny Mordaunt hasn't done the same.

Ali1cedowntherabbithole · 21/03/2019 22:58

Perhaps he’d like to tell us.

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truthisarevolutionaryact · 21/03/2019 23:03

I don't think it's difficult for people to change their minds at the moment. Now that the dreadful reality of the bullying, threats, misuse of the police, targeting schools and children not to mention eliminating women's sport and sex segregated spaces are out in the open, even the wokest of the woke struggle to defend what's happening. Add Karen White into the mix......

TimeLady · 22/03/2019 06:09

That's a good article, stating that Penny Mordaunt's has got this wrong. We need more like this.

ComputerSaysMo · 22/03/2019 07:01

He’s a lazy coward. His last column was written when the Tory line was that trans was the new section 28 and therefore a great way to get the yoof vote from Corbyn, and it was only pissing off a few women so being pro-trans was easy-peasy.

Now that loads of other people have done the heavy lifting on the story, and brave women like Martina and Sharron and Kelly have stuck their necks out and given it a bit of oxygen, Young has now realised it’s a handy stick to beat “the Left” with so he’s on board.

He’s an opportunist. The only sign this gives me is that the right wing backlash against LGBT has really started (because Young is a follower, not a leader), which is precisely the fear I’ve had about TRA overreach.

RepealTheGRA · 22/03/2019 07:10

Ah Toby Young! Who dressed up as a Lebian, to hit on Lesbians.

Takes one to know one and all that.

Ali1cedowntherabbithole · 22/03/2019 07:51

I suspect you’re correct Computer and he has realised which way the tide is flowing.

With my Pollyanna head on, it shows that the heavy lifting is having an effect though. As pointed out here, the issues in sport affect men and have peaked a lot of people. Martina, Sharron & Kelly have reached a wider audience, and feminists continue to state the facts.

I’m not jumping for joy yet, but I it’s a step further forward.

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