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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Matt Lucas thinks 5 year olds can change sex

55 replies

Bluestitch · 19/03/2019 00:05

He's just been congratulating Sam Smith for coming out as 'non binary' and joined the debate.

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Bluestitch · 19/03/2019 00:06

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EcclesThePeacock · 19/03/2019 00:14

Have to hope he reads some of the sensible replies and thinks again.

AssassinatedBeauty · 19/03/2019 02:11

I don't think he's in any way actually thinking about this, and as a man, he is completely unaware or uninterested in the underlying misogyny of the ideas. I'm surprised the overtones of homophobia haven't disturbed him.

RepealTheGRA · 19/03/2019 05:51

When did people become so brazen about revealing their flat earth stupidity in public!?!

I’m liking this tweet though. Burn 🔥

Matt Lucas thinks 5 year olds can change sex
KenDoddsDadsDogsDead18 · 19/03/2019 07:01

I read his tweets last night. He's made up his mind & that's that. Horrified he thinks a year 1 child should just be affirmed though.

AnyFucker · 19/03/2019 07:05

our daughter came out as herself at the age of 7

Ok

HandsOffMyRights · 19/03/2019 07:11

I'm not even surprised anymore when a man says this. Even those comedy writers I thought were astute enough to see the emperor has no clothes. Makes me even more grateful to Glinner.

It hurts more when women support the ideology.

CallingDannyBoy · 19/03/2019 07:13

Sue was fantastic on that thread.

RockyFlintstone · 19/03/2019 07:17

He is desperately trying to make up for Emily Howard on Little Britain.

Personally I think this is spot on and strangely prophetic actually!

FriendOrFaux · 19/03/2019 07:29

The world's gone mad.

When I was 7-8 I was a typical tomboy. Loved playing football, bmx biking, climbing trees etc, all my friends were boys, hated dresses, had my hair cut short. I also used to beg my DM to buy me clothes that my DB would wear, like Ben sherman shirts etc.

I suppose if that happened now I'd be classed as trans.

FriendOrFaux · 19/03/2019 07:31

Meant to add, I'm very much a woman now.
Why is there so much talk of trans now? Why are there so many of our young people wanting to change? Changing sex is impossible.

Pinkarsedfly · 19/03/2019 07:35

Matt Lucas reveals himself to be misogynistic?

Anyone who has ever watched Little Britain won’t be shocked.

WeRiseUp · 19/03/2019 07:35

What a dickhead.

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 19/03/2019 07:37

I really don't understand hiw someone can say a child has changed sex

They obviously bloody havnt even if you do believe at a stretch that a sex change is even possible

If the parents encourage a wait and see attitude which of course they bloody should do and the child later decides they are not trans...

Did they change sex back?

There was that person, (and I can't say whether they are a man or a woman cos they keep changing it it and god forbid i should misgender someone...could be arrested,) who has had multiple operations

StephsCaddy · 19/03/2019 07:44

I’m so sick of men blithely giving women’s rights away. The fucking cheek of it.

Okokokok · 19/03/2019 07:52

When I was 7/8 I called myself a boys name, had short hair, wore boys clothes etc. Thankfully everyone around me laughed it off and let me get on with it. I dread to think if adults had started telling me that yes I was actually a boy, and that I could change into a boy if I wanted, what path I would have been led down.
If all the adults in my life had started taking me to meetings about being transgender etc, telling me I was right and I absolutely was a boy I would have believed them. I would also imagine all the attention would have been quite heady and addictive.
I was no more a boy than I was a unicorn. Terrifying that children cannot just use their imagination and be what they want to be that day, week, month or year without adults getting involved!

KenDoddsDadsDogsDead18 · 19/03/2019 08:13

I suspect it's coming from a place of 'kindness' and a desire to be accepting & empathy. Having had his own mental health battles, they are probably colouring his view. I'm not legitimising his views by the way. He's not particularly talking from a 'rights' point of view, although affirming a child of 6/7 inevitably opens that door.

I'm sure he's given this matter more thought, than he cracks on & is now firmly entrenched. No rowing back for Matt.

McTufty · 19/03/2019 08:20

To be fair to Matt Lucas, he accepts he hasn’t done much reading and he has engaged politely without telling anyone they’re a bigot. He said to Glinner that they see it differently but it doesn’t affect their friendship.

Frankly if more of those who believe in the gender ideology were more like him, women wouldn’t be threatened and doxxed and it would be far easier to get somewhere.

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 19/03/2019 08:32

mctufty

I appreciate your point but what sort of a society do we live in that brownie points should be given to someone who is polite and hasn't called anyone nasty names

Surely thats a basic!!

(I know we live in a society that thinks thats all ok but i wish we didnt)

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 19/03/2019 08:32

Oh and obviously your last sentence is completely correct

Prequelle · 19/03/2019 08:41

My cousins 5 year old has come home from school with a letter saying they're banning the use of 'boy' and 'girl'. I'm not sure what they're supposed to use instead.

HandsOffMyRights · 19/03/2019 08:44

My cousins 5 year old has come home from school with a letter saying they're banning the use of 'boy' and 'girl'. I'm not sure what they're supposed to use instead.

Blue and pink or white I believe.

McTufty · 19/03/2019 08:44

Totally agree rufus, awful it has come to this!

More generally though in society, in life, people will always disagree on stuff. Respectful disagreement is part of life and I can cope with it.

hoodathunkit · 19/03/2019 08:44

This insanity in which young children are attributed with the maturity and agency to determine their gender is so very similar to the narrative promoted by the Paedophile Information Exchange in the 1980s.

Back then people working in the public sector and in child protection were provided with all kinds of insane training and literature that claimed to be about "empowering young people" when in reality it was about making young people, including young children, available to be abused with impunity.

This insanity has to stop

McTufty · 19/03/2019 08:45

prequelle

That is fucking ridiculous.