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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Trans in Women's sport on R4 PM programme.

33 replies

LizzieSiddal · 25/02/2019 17:07

Just thought I'd flag this, not sure what time it is on, but sometime before 6.

OP posts:
ErrolTheDragon · 25/02/2019 23:48

'Sarah Ditum et al’s sex is a biological fact mantra really is nearing its end.'

Hard to choose the best bit from the replies but I did like:

I like your use of 'et al' there, Prof.
Often it just refers to a handful of other authors of a paper, but here it means 99.9% of the world.

Maybe we could get MNHQ to invite Hines for a web chat, trying to convince a parenting website that sex is a construct might be fun...

EatCashews · 25/02/2019 23:55

It's interesting, though, only a few months ago the critical replies would have been fewer and less vitriolic.

It'll be a long time until the message is received in academia.

MrsCollinssettled · 26/02/2019 00:08

I thought Evan Davies should have pressed RMcK for an answer when he suggested scrapping male and female categories in favour of mixed competition. The answer would have been interesting

R0wantrees · 26/02/2019 11:00

Dr Jane Monckton Smith
(Forensic Criminologist specialising in homicide, Coercive Control and stalking. )

"In coercive control, the controlling person will keep diverting the actual argument to push the victim to keep defending themselves against spurious accusations. That way the victim cannot put their side, and seems to onlookers to be guilty of something. It’s a strategy."

hackmum · 26/02/2019 11:16

Very cheering to read the responses. Does she really believe this shit, though?

I thought this summed up the problem with the Hines view when it comes to supporting trans people:

"some trans people have serious sex dysphoria because they want to be the opposite sex, if sex wasn't a biological fact then there would be no transition process."

EatCashews · 26/02/2019 12:20

Hines is an embarrassment to academe.

But I'm sure she believes she is doing the right thing.

CrazyCrunk · 26/02/2019 14:39

Oh dear, Radio 4 listeners are all terfs:

www.facebook.com/groups/2219806568/permalink/10156223108821569?sfns=mo

plattercake · 27/02/2019 22:26

I thought Evan Davies should have pressed RMcK for an answer when he suggested scrapping male and female categories in favour of mixed competition. The answer would have been interesting

Yes, McK needs to answer this question. I think a GC debater meeting McK next should just ask this over and over Jeremy Paxman style until they answer or explode

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