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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Feels like Schrödinger's society right now...

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OrdinaryGirl · 20/10/2018 08:13

Where, post-consultation closure but pre-results announcement, we are living in a society where the population simultaneously whole-heartedly supports and rejects the amendment to legislation.

Is weird. Felt like this - sort of in limbo - the night of the EU referendum and the US elections.

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OrdinaryGirl · 20/10/2018 08:15

Schrödinger reference in case needed
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schr%C3%B6dinger%27s_cat

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DirtyNell · 20/10/2018 08:16

The consultation has been extended until Monday.

BlardyBlar · 20/10/2018 09:23

It won’t be all over quickly like the referendum either as it wasn’t a vote. Also it’s not a yes/no question. We might get self-ID with exemptions, for example.

But yes, I too really want to know where this will go.

OrdinaryGirl · 20/10/2018 09:37

@DirtyNell oh has it? I missed that.

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BollocksToBrexit · 20/10/2018 09:44

I felt like that when I read about the Guides policy. Transgirls are to be treated exactly the same as girls but transwomen won't be allowed to be warranted leaders. So they believe and don't believe that transwomen are women at the same time. Confused

catkind · 20/10/2018 09:44

Schroedinger's woman. Is she an adult human female, or is she an... "oh it's complicated"? If the latter I don't envy the compilers of dictionaries. Or biology teachers. The trouble is if you start with a logically inconsistent premise (a circular definition for example) you can deduce all sorts of nonsense. Genuinely scared where society will go if TWAW becomes generally accepted. A far more sexist place for a start.

AngryAttackKittens · 20/10/2018 09:50

Penis or no penis? Everyone is now required to pretend that they can't possibly know until the pants are removed.

AngryAttackKittens · 20/10/2018 09:51

So, Schrodinger's Cock.

Juells · 20/10/2018 09:55

Schrodinger's Cock

Best description yet!

OrdinaryGirl · 20/10/2018 09:59

Oh my goodness please don't let that stick! I'd be burned at the stake for starting this thread - guilty by association! 🙈 🧙‍♀️ 🔥

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ChilliJamandAvocado · 20/10/2018 10:25

It's a Schrodinger's ideology. They want to be considered exactly the same as real women AND also be trans at the same time. The state of being trans disproves any claim at womanhood. Either they are exactly the same as all other women, therefore trans isn't a thing. Or they acknowledge that biology is a fundamental part of being a woman, therefore trans isn't a thing. It's an irreconcilable circularity. In laying claim to both states they are eliding sex and gender into one category, when they are incompatible, discrete concepts.

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