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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Could Karen White Be Transferred Back to a Women's Prison? Yes

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arranfan · 12/10/2018 09:42

Richard Garside has tweeted a thread that has shocked me:

Could Karen White be transferred back to a women's prison? The short answer is yes. Here's how.

Karen White is currently being held in a male prison and is likely to be so for the time being. Many assume that White will be held in a male prison for the entire prison sentence. This is not necessarily the case.

According to media reports, White continues to claim to be a woman and is in the process of transitioning. This could include applying for a Gender Recognition Certificate, which can be awarded to males who retain their male genitalia. Please read the whole thread.

twitter.com/RichardJGarside/status/1050653367641432065

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AspieAndProud · 12/10/2018 09:45

Just toss her down an oubliette and drop food down from the hole above. She could befriend a mouse like they did in old movies.

Gender isn’t an issue if they never have to interact with other humans.

WokerThanWoke · 12/10/2018 09:45

I wondered this on the other thread, but I didn't know the ins and outs. That's horrifying.

ILuvBirdsEye · 12/10/2018 09:51

I was wondering too. MSM have starting calling him a man but I never saw anything saying KW is re transitioning to male as did Jacinta Brooks. So KW is a woman and will be kept as a woman or KW's human rights are compromised.

World's first woman rapist with a life sentence?

Melamin · 12/10/2018 09:53

I have just been reading that Angry

I have also been reading that a committee sits every three months to evaluate trans programme in prison, and there are no representatives on it to make the women's case.

arranfan · 12/10/2018 09:56

We've had transgender prisoners with convictions for murder and attempted rape who've been quietly released because the Prison Service couldn't resolve the estate conundrum.

Karen Jones - - the one who was invited by Lord Patel to address the HoL on transgender prisoner issues.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3370661-2009-case-of-a-judge-ordering-an-intact-male-rapist-into-a-female-prison-because-he-had-a-GRC

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3192486-Lord-Patel-Karen-Jones-thread-anyone-want-to-go-to-House-of-Lords-to-talk-to-Lord-Patel

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heresyandwitchcraft · 12/10/2018 09:58

NO.
This is completely unacceptable.
These policies must be ripped up in tiny little pieces, a third space "trans prison facility" needs to be established, and females need to be left alone and not be expected to accommodate any males in their space. None. The risk is just far too great, and creates a "pull factor" for violent men to claim to be trans.
NO.
NO.
NO.

Threewheeler1 · 12/10/2018 10:00

That's shocking.
I get more pissed off every day by the implications of all this and the effort to stop women having a say in any of the decision-making processes.
It's so bent out of shape, nothing is beyond belief anymore.

pastabest · 12/10/2018 10:02

It's going to be discussed on Jeremy vine at 10.15 apparently.

Karen White has really captured the interest of the media.

arranfan · 12/10/2018 10:04

I hope Jeremy Vine contacts Richard Garside or someone similar.

If it's a phone-in, can someone with hearing (that rules me out) phone and mention this to the researchers, even if you don't get on?

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Sarahjconnor · 12/10/2018 10:08

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arranfan · 12/10/2018 10:11

SarahjConnor - you can't share your story as it wouldn't be right for you but it would be a very powerful one for Jeremy Vine as a representative of someone who is directly affected by the coverage.

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SlowlyShrinking · 12/10/2018 10:12

I don’t understand why there’s even a question that a convicted rapist would be given any non-essential medical treatment?! He should not be allowed to continue his transition in prison.

AncientLights · 12/10/2018 10:12

Jeremy Vine isn't on at 10.15! It's lovely Ken Bruce: do you mean 12.15?

DisrespectfulAdultFemale · 12/10/2018 10:15

Karen White has really captured the interest of the media.

Good. I am waiting for the allies to chime in with their support.

placemats · 12/10/2018 10:17

Jeremy Vine starts at 12.00pm.

pastabest · 12/10/2018 10:18

He's on the telly (c5) at 10.15

On now, they just dead named KW. Twice

arranfan · 12/10/2018 10:19

Is it a phone-in? Can anyone mention Garside?

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placemats · 12/10/2018 10:20

Gaslighting victims by saying a male rapist is a woman in court is state sponsored victim abuse.

YES!

I'm sorry to hear that you are being traumatised by this reporting. Hopefully, all the hard work done by thousands of women throughout the country will ensure that self-id doesn't happen and that prisons change the policy.

Flowers SarahjConnor

Threewheeler1 · 12/10/2018 10:21

SarahjConnor
Your anger is entirely justified.
Flowers to you

placemats · 12/10/2018 10:21

Thanks for the clarification pastabest I'll catch up later.

FermatsTheorem · 12/10/2018 10:22

Sarah Flowers

Wishing you a better night's sleep tonight.

NoRunAround · 12/10/2018 10:23

It's outrageous that KW could be transferred to a woman's prison. Have they considered KW's safety amongst women, after all they are many and KW is one????

Surely a third space is necessary.

placemats · 12/10/2018 10:23

There has been dead naming of Karen White all over the media.

pastabest · 12/10/2018 10:24

Jeremy is definitely GC and struggling with a panel/callers that are mostly saying TWAW

buckeejit · 12/10/2018 10:28

No one has yet said KW should be in a women's prison & there's a lot of comments

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