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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

A transwoman's penis is not a male penis

49 replies

WatchThePotatoesBoil · 03/10/2018 13:22

This is priceless...

twitter.com/JeanHatchet/status/1047459560557088768

OP posts:
Johnbowlby · 03/10/2018 13:24

I'm blocked from seeing this person's tweets, is it good?

Gileswithachainsaw · 03/10/2018 13:26

Shock I don't know whether to laugh or cry...

Kr1stina · 03/10/2018 13:30

It’s a video clip. Here’s Sandy’s response

A transwoman's penis is not a male penis
Kyanite · 03/10/2018 13:33

This is what the tweet says "So @RozKaveney told some massive fiction about Venice being “upset” at a meeting. This is the truth ... listen carefully where Roz explains about the smooth harmless lady penis which is not a “hairy prong”. Best thing you’ll hear today. “A transwoman’s Penis is not a male penis”"

Then there's a recording of a guy saying that transwomen's penises aren't male because they take HRT and that changes them...then the women laugh.

R0wantrees · 03/10/2018 13:33

Jean Hatchet's comment:
So @ RozKaveney told some massive fiction about Venice being “upset” at a meeting. This is the truth ... listen carefully where Roz explains about the smooth harmless lady penis which is not a “hairy prong”. Best thing you’ll hear today. “A transwoman’s Penis is not a male penis”

It's Roz Kaverney speaking.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roz_Kaveney

thread:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3300327-Feminists-Against-Censorship-Spearheaded-by-British-activists-Linda-Semple-and-Roz-Kaveney

The Jean Hatchet Twitter account has been subject to mass reports by Twitter TRAs. If its not showing its likely a consequence of this as (I think) her account is either shadow banned or similar.

Babdoc · 03/10/2018 13:35

I don’t think they’ll be changing the curriculum content at U.K. medical schools any time soon, OP.
A penis is still a male genital organ, according to my anatomy text book.
I don’t recall any chapters on “lady penis”.
Breathtaking arrogance typical of TRAs, though - if reality doesn’t fit your delusion, demand that reality changes!

NothingOnTellyAgain · 03/10/2018 13:36

Men don't have hairy penises.

I've seen quite a few Grin

I mean maybe there are a few in the world with some freak hairiness but as a rule your standard dick is not hairy.

Bizarre.

terryleather · 03/10/2018 13:40

Was there not a tra opining a while back that the cocks that belong to they-who-must-be-obeyed were delicate and gentle and easily startled like a gentle butterfly or some such shite...

And once again anyone with a hairy penis or a hairy vagina for that matter really needs to consult a medical professional with the utmost haste Grin

averylongtimeago · 03/10/2018 13:40

I have never seen a hairy penis. Hairy arses yes, hairy balls yes but not the actual penis.
Obvs never seen a trans penis, so I can't 100% say they are any different

littlbrowndog · 03/10/2018 13:42

I think Ros was upset cos the women were laughing 😆

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heresyandwitchcraft · 03/10/2018 13:48

LOL.
Nobody cares if there are subtle changes to genitalia from cross-sex hormones. It's still a penis. Plus, Roz is being incredibly transphobic there. What about the trans women who don't take HRT cross-sex hormones?
This is ridiculous.
A penis is a male organ. It is one of THE DEFINING organs of who is a male human.
End of story.

JillyArmeeen · 03/10/2018 14:04

Wait. What's the reference to Paris Lees and the baby about?

TransposersArePosers · 03/10/2018 14:04

Just googled RK as didn't recognise the name and RK has complained on twitter that the recording was made without RK's consent and that Venice and Jean were 'complaining about my explaining the fairly self-evident fact that the vast hairy schlongs of their fantasy propaganda are not like the average trans woman's penis after HRT.'

Thing is though RK, while I don't know whether HRT would cause a shrinking of a penis although I accept that it is a possibility and the functionality of a penis may be affected, BUT what about those trans who do nothing except say the magic words?

And we're back to IW with 'people who have taken hormones/have had surgery aren't male' which is all well and good, but they're not female either!

traceyracer · 03/10/2018 14:08

for some reason I'm blocked from seeing it too, even though I'm supportive of transrights

terryleather · 03/10/2018 14:21

Lisa takes no prisoners when it comes safeguarding, she sees right through the genderist bs smokescreen to the dangerous misogyny underneath and calls it out loud and clear.

Brilliant.

arranfan · 03/10/2018 14:25

Thing is though RK, while I don't know whether HRT would cause a shrinking of a penis although I accept that it is a possibility and the functionality of a penis may be affected, BUT what about those trans who do nothing except say the magic words?

As you say, there's a group who don't take hormone suppressors nor hormone supplementation whether for medical reasons or because they believe insisting on this is a violation of human rights. See, e.g.,:

Jillian Bearden and Rachel McKinnon have much in common as cyclists, Olympic hopefuls and transgender women — and much in conflict as opposite poles of an intractable argument over how to balance what’s fair with what’s right.

Bearden agrees with the International Olympic Committee that naturally occurring testosterone gives transgender women an unfair advantage in competition against cisgender women, meaning women who were born female, while McKinnon believes subjecting trans women to testosterone blocking violates their human rights. ...

How to reconcile science (blocking testosterone) with human rights (competing as you are). ...

eu.usatoday.com/story/sports/olympics/2018/01/11/these-transgender-cyclists-have-olympian-disagreement-how-define-fairness/995434001/

Knicknackpaddyflak · 03/10/2018 14:26

I have seen an article by a transwoman complaining that lesbians would not appreciate that their penis would feel completely different inside because it was a ladycock, and were so unfairly rejecting sex on these terms.

It's like the same argument that it's perfectly ok for you to feel humiliated and vulnerable and unwilling to change in front of a man, but if said man then says he feels like a woman inside, you need to instantly stop having those feelings and get your kit off with a smile.

Major issues in theory of mind: how one person subjectively feels in no way affects another person's objective experience. That person is perfectly entitled to say no, not accepting this experience, or predicating my boundaries and consent on how you say you happen to feel inside.

Total self centredness, total lack of empathy, total lack of respect for others. Total inability to grasp objectivity. In fact disordered thinking all round.

LemonJello · 03/10/2018 14:28

Roz reminds me of a small child trying desperately to find reasons as to why it’s not bedtime.

Utterly fucking ridiculous and cringe from a grown...human of the sex which I’m not allowed to write or speak of unless they are a proven rapist or a paedophile.

LemonJello · 03/10/2018 14:30

Disordered thinking is a very polite way of putting it Knicknack

Gileswithachainsaw · 03/10/2018 14:31

Wait. What's the reference to Paris Lees and the baby about?

I wondered that.

ScienceIsTruth · 03/10/2018 14:35

Isn't it frightening that on the Wikipedia page linked to, there is no mention of RK being trans?

ScienceIsTruth · 03/10/2018 14:36

As in a erasing people's pasts and history kinda of way.

Knicknackpaddyflak · 03/10/2018 14:36

These days I have to count to ten and tone my posts down about 2000% after first writing them to not be deleted, Lemon . It's becoming more of an effort daily.