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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Great article today about our dear Agnes

44 replies

TerfedOff · 30/09/2018 08:46

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6222859/Guide-leader-says-sacked-telling-bosses-new-transgender-policies-pose-risk.html

Really clear and in depth and explains exactly what the concerns are. I really do think that the reporting around this issue is becoming much more favourable towards the gender critical concerns which seems hopeful.

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redshoeblueshoe · 30/09/2018 12:25

I'd like to know how many of the questions were about safeguarding

WomanLifeIsGoodish · 30/09/2018 12:43

Ok - this is bending my brain.

If a GG group had only trans women leaders, would they still be eligible to run an overnight camp?

I know that this one of those things that would surely never happen, but hypothetically you could have a group with this scenario.

Even the wokest of woke would pause over that? Surely?

Furx · 30/09/2018 12:49

Thank you. Agnes

gendercritter · 30/09/2018 12:52

Brilliant article. You're doing a great job Agnes. So heartening too that all the people commenting agree

BesmirchingMotherhood · 30/09/2018 12:53

Agnes, you’re an absolute shero.🏆🏆🏆

Chocolala · 30/09/2018 12:58

They really really wanted to shut you up, didn’t they! If they’d listened and applied brains, they wouldn’t now be in this mess.

It’s ridiculous. I’ve signed up to be a Rainbows leader too, but if they don’t screw their heads on and fix this there is no way I can continue as I can’t support their policies. The safeguarding risk couldn’t be more obvious.

Chocolala · 30/09/2018 12:59

Star is what you are

Mammysin · 30/09/2018 13:01

Well done Agnes !

Prawnofthepatriarchy · 30/09/2018 13:08

Great article from Sanchez, and hearty congratulations to you, Agnes. Star

RepealtheGRA · 30/09/2018 13:44

Yes well done! And well done to the mail readers not buying this shite! Now tell your friends and your elected officials Smile

NewWomensMovement · 30/09/2018 13:49

Great article Agnes you photograph well and hit just the right tone.

It really does scare me that your treatment by GG is so reminiscent of Venice Allen's treatment by the labour party.

So strange that these mad people with their mad ideology are in positions of authority and power. The lies about the equality act. The doubling down. It really does start to look like some weird scifi where they've had their brains removed and are being controlled by remote.

DisrespectfulAdultFemale · 30/09/2018 14:05

Well done, Agnes. You are a star.

hackmum · 30/09/2018 15:08

Interesting that the Guides have changed the wording of their policy on trans boys since Lucy Bannerman's article in The Times the other day:

twitter.com/TimesLucy/status/1045251761227943936

seafret · 30/09/2018 16:55

Thank you Helen/Agnes for working so hard to protect women and girls Star

hackmum · 30/09/2018 18:35

The Guardian has deigned to write about the Guides - all from the Guides' point of view, of course:

www.theguardian.com/society/2018/sep/26/girlguiding-defends-transgender-policy-after-criticism?CMP=share_btn_fb

AliceIdentifiesasaCamel · 30/09/2018 18:47

Agnes, I am in awe FlowersGin

You're a clear example of an adult living their promise, every step, every word. I'm horrified at the lengths they have gone to in order to protect their woke policies.

For those who don't know it, the current promise is :
I promise to do my best,
To be true to myself and develop my beliefs
To serve the queen and my community
To help other people and to keep the Guide law.

Datun · 30/09/2018 19:08

That is a very considered, measured article. There is no sensationalist stuff in it. And the comments reflect that. Every one of them supportive with a 'quite right, of course'.

Helen, I can't imagine the stress you have been under. You've been involved in guiding all this time, your family.

I'm so bloody impressed with what you have done.

The absolute nonsensical 'trans people are no more predatory than anyone else' makes me want to spit. It's not about being trans, it's about being male. They are absolute fucking idiots.

Except they're not, are they? They have been told innumerable times it's not about being trans.

The know. They absolutely know they can invoke equality law to keep guides single sex. They have been told that, also time without number.

They are in thrall to the trans lobby. They are sacrificing one of the most incredible organisations on the planet.

This is not going to go away.

And thank God for Sanchez.

Helen, you have my utmost admiration. Have a hug as well. ❤️

MnerXX · 01/10/2018 00:02

Thank you Helen. You have done amazingly to keep going through all of this. The article is a credit to you.

Thanks as well to the DM and Sanchez

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