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Spectator article: Labour’s refusal to accept the definition of a woman

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TimeLady · 11/09/2018 17:28

Thank you, Josephine Bartosch Flowers

[https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2018/09/labours-refusal-to-accept-the-definition-of-a-woman/]

‘Well what sort of question is that? That’s bloody stupid if you ask me. I’ve two daughters and five grandchildren. I’ve got my bits and him indoors, he’s got his – that’s just nature.’ Those were the words of my octogenarian neighbour Joan who, reasonably enough, looked at me like I was a simpleton when I asked her what she thought ‘made a woman.’

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TimeLady · 11/09/2018 17:28

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NothingOnTellyAgain · 11/09/2018 17:52

Women are whatever men say they are.

We have no real existence outside of that.

snugglybeans · 11/09/2018 18:04

Dawn Butler doesn't have a bloody clue.

The Labour party is now taking diktats from a cabal of very aggressive pro-trans activists who are seeking to bend reality itself in their vicious crusade against women's rights.

The moment any party gives in to them, that's it. They will use the party structure to hunt down anyone who speaks out against this twisted ideology.

As a Labour voter, I say: the sooner this gang of charlatans implodes, the better.

Wanderabout · 11/09/2018 18:07

Great article.

This is an interesting point:

" The latest row over the internationally recognised definition of anti-Semitism should have taught the Labour Party that definitions matter and that failing to listen to those affected by them will damage their credibility and cost them votes."

Materialist · 11/09/2018 18:43

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MindTheMinotaur · 11/09/2018 19:09

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placemats · 11/09/2018 19:41

Can we all agree then that men are idiots as a starter for ten for a definition of men? Obviously some men are more idiotic than others.

Turph · 11/09/2018 21:53

placemats
A straw man is a common form of argument and is an informal fallacy based on giving the impression of refuting an opponent's argument, while actually refuting an argument that was not presented by that opponent. One who engages in this fallacy is said to be "attacking a straw man."

HebeMumsnet · 12/09/2018 09:40

Morning folks! Just wanted to let you know we've removed a couple of posts on this thread as they linked a real life person with their online persona and we didn't want that to cause any bother for the person in real life. Sorry to fiddle about with posts but we thought it was for the best on this occasion.

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