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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Mi5 sponsored an award at BritishLGBT Awards...

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therealposieparker · 13/05/2018 16:20

That's it really.

They sponsored one award and won one for diversity in the workplace.

The award they sponsored was win by someone who circumvented uk law....

Wtf is happening to our country?

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Sarahconnor1 · 13/05/2018 16:33

I think gvt departments are just trying to demonstrate diversity and wokeness but in a very superficial way. I don't think there has been any critical thought on the wider implications. Also I don't think it's any coincidence that mermaids have been training some police forces on transgender issues then they get this award. Ironic though because if you took a female child out of the UK for FGM you would in theory be arrested on return.

picklemepopcorn · 13/05/2018 16:41

Can you explain a bit more? I don't know the back story.

OlennasWimple · 13/05/2018 17:34

Have you got a link to explain a bit more?

All the UK security agencies have a pretty decent history of diversity (including LGBT issues but less well on race)

For example, the director of GCHQ in 2016; the former head of MI5 has spoken a number of times about the importance of a diverse workforce; and MI5 has been the Stonewall most gay friendly employer in previous years.

wishiwassizeeight · 13/05/2018 17:38

Playboy also won an award. 🙄

Sarahconnor1 · 13/05/2018 17:48

I applaude diversity absolutely. But knee-jerk or 'on trend' support without any critical thought is not a good look for any gvt department.

LazyMondayMornings · 13/05/2018 20:42

Interesting post from Helen Steel on this:

Trans advocacy sponsored by MI5 and bankers!

Why has the relatively new ‘trans' ideology made so many gains so fast? Much faster gains than ever achieved by those fighting sexism and racism. Why is this new ideology splitting so many progressive movements with its demands for absolute adherence to that ideology and total intolerance of any debate or critical thinking. Who benefits from its demands that women be expelled from political movements and parties for daring to think and speak for themselves about their life experiences of sexism? How has it taken over LGB organisations so successfully that the most blatant attacks on lesbians’ rights by numerous trans advocates go completely unchallenged?

Take a look at the LGBT awards last night and think about whether this agenda is driven by the most oppressed people on the planet or whether it’s actually driven and funded by those with power and money - by predominantly rich, very privileged white men, who despite their position still want more. Sponsored by MI5 ! Sponsored by Barclays, HSBT, Virgin, PWC. Award to Playboy! Awards to bankers.

What genuine activist fighting oppression would think it appropriate to have an award sponsored by MI5 for the category which "celebrates influencers, activists, campaigners or trailblazers in the LGBT+ community, who have made an impact either on a grass roots level……..". How were they in contact with MI5 in the first place?

In all your years of fighting injustice, have you ever seen anything like this movement for creating division but having massive success in getting laws and policies changed. How has a movement which demands that we deny the reality of biological sex and the reality of physical differences between women and men, and which can’t even provide the new definitions of the words it has appropriated, made so many gains so fast in so many countries around the world. This movement upholds rather than destroys sexism and sexist stereotypes. Ask yourself who/what does this movement really represent?

Inequality and injustice are rampant at present, sexism and racism are on the increase and there’s a massive and growing divide between rich and poor. There’s a huge amount of work to be done to create a better world. I know there are many genuine and caring people active within trans politics now, but the rich & powerful are always happy to use others as cannon fodder to fight their wars.

Who benefits when we are not able to talk to each other about our ideas and visions of the society we want to see? Can we start to rebuild our progressive movements by starting to talk and listen to each other about the world we want to see, without the shackles of sexism and sexist stereotypes or any other forms of oppression and where money doesn’t get to determine whose values and priorities dominate.

WanderinWomb · 13/05/2018 22:22

Well said by Helen Steel.
Where is this from?

LazyMondayMornings · 13/05/2018 22:53

It's on her Facebook page:

www.facebook.com/helen.steel.37266

cromeyellow0 · 13/05/2018 23:11

Thanks for Helen's post!

sleep5 · 14/05/2018 06:47

MI5, MI6 and GCHQ have a long history of discriminating against LGBT staff, so it's good to see they're doing something to sort it out.

Stonewall will take money from any organisation they can and will happily make up new awards for companies if it means receiving more cash. To be fair, this is pretty standard in award ceremonies that are dependent on sponsorship from commercial organisations.

OfSpartacus · 14/05/2018 07:10

Did any lesbians win anything?

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