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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Lets talk about - baby girls in garbage in Pakistan

27 replies

KittyKlaws · 01/05/2018 17:00

Another example of biology based oppression here.

I would apologise for the Mail link but hey, that's where the story is so suck it up Wink

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5678025/Hundreds-dead-newborn-girls-dumped-garbage-piles-Pakistan-year.html?ito=social-facebook

Like China before it revoked the one child policy there is a cultural preference for boys which has resulted in the deaths and abandonment of unwanted baby girls. Apparently China still has that preference so is continuing its problems with a lack of women just as an aside - because when it comes to misogyny people just don't learn. So here we are, it makes me feel sick, sad and helpless. Babies murdered for having female biology because the culture they are born into doesn't value them.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5678025/Hundreds-dead-newborn-girls-dumped-garbage-piles-Pakistan-year.html?ito=social-facebook

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KittyKlaws · 01/05/2018 17:01

Oh two links for the price of one - sorry about that.

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lightthedarkness · 01/05/2018 17:35

Truly awful.

HappyLollipop · 01/05/2018 17:44

How disgusting, they even stoned a baby left outside a mosque because they thought it was illegitimate Sad

StealthPolarBear · 01/05/2018 17:47

Oh that is awful :( im a bit amazed at their horror at the little girl with the obvious cause of death, do they think the deaths of the others were any less unpleasant?

mrsjackrussell · 01/05/2018 17:48

That's awful when there are many childless couples in the West who would adopt a baby.

SardineReturns · 01/05/2018 17:52

The only way to address these sorts of things is to address the underlying misogyny.

If girls and women are seen as low-value barely-people then what does it matter if they die? It's like killing a dog or a goat.

The denial that sex based oppression exists is just insult to injury really isn't it. It says, it is imprortant to me on a philosophical level that these young are not labelled as female, therefore I will ignore this atrocity, because it gives evidence that goes against my view. Not that this has been said about this in particular, but certainly FGM and charities working with menstruation have come under attack. The narrative in general is that these babies were coercively assigned female at birth by and presumably also by the people who found the bodies, it's incorrect to say they were female based on seeing their bodies.

StealthPolarBear · 01/05/2018 18:00

I didn't understand that. They were killed because they were girls

StarkStaring · 01/05/2018 18:28

Sardine I hope are you being sarcastic? Those babies were killed because of their biology not because of their identity.

littlebillie · 01/05/2018 19:02

Here we go I don't understand either 🙄

53rdWay · 01/05/2018 19:17

I think Sardine is agreeing that they were killed because of their biology, and pointing out that we can't tackle misogyny if we don't say that.

doctorcuntybollocks · 01/05/2018 19:18

It makes perfect sense to me.

QuarksandLeptons · 01/05/2018 20:21

If a mass grave of any other group (Christians, Muslims, Jews, etc) had been uncovered there would be an international out cry with politicians discussing genocide but the ongoing persecution and murder of females seems invisible.

Dancingleopard · 01/05/2018 20:24

That’s fucking dreadful Sad

LassWiADelicateAir · 01/05/2018 21:31

Oh that is awful  im a bit amazed at their horror at the little girl with the obvious cause of death, do they think the deaths of the others were any less unpleasant?

No I'm sure they don't think that. I thought that was effective writing tbh. Probably many of these babies were dumped and died of exposure. It takes an unbelievable lack of humanity to carry out the positive act referred to. I don't have a problem with the journalist making readers think of that.

StealthPolarBear · 01/05/2018 21:34

I do take your point but they all died dreadfully. Where through positive action or in action iyswim.

IStillMissBlockbuster · 01/05/2018 21:36

I had to force myself to read that because I knew it would be horrifying and i'd rather carry on not really knowing that this goes on in the world right now.

OlennasWimple · 01/05/2018 21:37
Sad

I wish the poor snowflakes bleating on with hand written gender neutral toilet signs would read this stuff, pause for even one minute, and consider what sex based oppression means for those who can't identify out

Akire · 01/05/2018 21:39

As a westerner I really can’t get my head around it. I mean if men could have babies and do everything on their own then fair enough, make women the bottom of pile. But given men can’t have babies and look after families why isn’t it valued? Even if woman “just” produce sons?

StealthPolarBear · 01/05/2018 21:40

Ah is that what sardine meant? Makes sense

doctorcuntybollocks · 01/05/2018 21:40

They'd find some way of making it about their pointless, rotten-hearted selves.

spontaneousgiventime · 01/05/2018 21:49

This is horrendous. Women the world over are second class citizens but to do this to babies is barbaric. How on earth can anyone pick up stones and do that to a baby - just how?

I hope they rot in hell.

FermatsTheorem · 01/05/2018 21:52

I've no words. Just horrible.

DietCoke87 · 01/05/2018 21:55

Heartbreaking and horrifying. This is why when it comes to international laws, we need to keep pushing for sex based protections, as opposed to gender identity or gender expression recognition. Females are killed and abused in their masses because of their biology, not because of the clothes they wear, the hairstyle they have or the cosmetics they do or do not apply to their face. They're babies ffs.

ButtonMoonPig · 01/05/2018 22:00

Dowry system?

Stormwhale · 01/05/2018 22:01

Completely agree with the pp about western couples being desperate for babies. If only they had the drop boxes like some places in America. If they are too fucking stupid to see that they will not be able to reproduce without women in the future, then let the unwanted baby girls go to a loving family somewhere else. Or are females too filthy and unworthy of even that?

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