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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

The Guardian's Latest Pro-Trans Article: Shon Faye "Trans visibility is greater than ever – but that's a double-edged sword"

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Terfing · 30/03/2018 11:12

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/mar/30/transgender-acceptance-media-international-day-visibility

Yay! I'm starting to look forward to the Guardian's unintentionally-hilarious weekly trans love bomb... This week, Shon Faye has done the honours with an opinion piece on 'Trans Visibility Day'. Some gems:

"Hence the interminable discussion of toilets and changing rooms which are more about cisgender people’s fears than trans people’s lives."

"Society is fascinated and suspicious that a person put in the “male” box at birth would instead appear to choose womanhood. When the reverse happens, there is less interest – good or bad – but the confected outrage at terms like “pregnant people” or the recent inclusion of Kenny Jones, a 23-year-old trans man, in a campaign about menstruation, show that when trans men are visible, the abuse they can receive is just as vile as that endured by trans women."

No comments allowed, but the begging box is there...

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MinesaBottle · 30/03/2018 14:20

Firstly, the trans people who tend to be visible tend to be those judged as more palatable by media gatekeepers – younger, prettier, non-disabled and white.

Gosh, just like women then!

SmurfOrTerf · 30/03/2018 15:14

No comments allowed.
Well I didn't bother to click the link.
I peaked Guardian a long time ago.

Angryresister · 30/03/2018 17:44

I am getting mad with the amount of coverage these guys get. If only us GC feminists had half the space....

SunsetBeetch · 30/03/2018 17:45

Oh fuck off, Shon!

mimivanne · 30/03/2018 18:53

Smurf
You're not alone,the piece on Shon has quickly gone from the front page,I suspect its a big yawn to many readers

AngryAttackKittens · 30/03/2018 18:56

More honest translation - Once people start to realize what trans activists are actually pushing for, they don't like it and they push back.

user1487175389 · 30/03/2018 18:59

Am I the only one who doesn't think Shon looks anything like a woman?

terfing · 30/03/2018 19:05

Shon looks like the singer from Supergrass, which is kind of a compliment!

Yeah, they don't look female though...

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AngryAttackKittens · 30/03/2018 19:08

Damn you, terfing, now I'm going to be stuck with an earworm all day.

Which to be fair is a lot less painful than listening to Shon bang on.

SmurfOrTerf · 30/03/2018 19:20

Mimi well that's good news

ErrolTheDragon · 30/03/2018 19:27

I wonder if anyone at the Guardian is uncomfortable with the irony of no comments being allowed on a piece with an URL .../commentisfree/...

No it isn't. Women are not free to comment.

RhinestoneCowgirl · 30/03/2018 19:34

I didn't know who this person was so did Google image search. One of them took me to a Grauniad article from 2014 about men who wear makeup, featuring one Sean Fay...

user1487175389 · 30/03/2018 19:44

terfing he really does! Poor Gaz Wink

The funny thing is, before all this transcult business, it wouldn't have occurred to me that the physical differences between men and women were so obvious. I just never gave it much thought. Maybe because it's so obvious.

Back in the mid nineties listening to Supergrass, teenage me could never have guessed she'd be wasting her thirties arguing with men that men aren't women.

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