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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Something has happened with TERF blocker because of Madigan

73 replies

SonicVersusGynaephobia · 19/03/2018 08:22

On twitter, but I don't understand it - please can someone explain? Madigan has said something (about neo-liberals) that TERF blocker says is homophobic and so they've shut it down.

I'm so Confused

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washthoseclothes · 19/03/2018 18:00

perfpower yes i would like to know what recourse you have here?

Also from Labour Party members if I understand it if he Labour Party have been having hearing with radical feminists then are they also meeting with LM or does someone need to complain about LM?

washthoseclothes · 19/03/2018 18:05

Also what the actual fuck - LM tweeting that it is important that twitter is a safe space but again LM publishes that list.

Please someone with twitter knowledge or Labour Party knowledge tell me how the fuck LM can get away with this crap.

Fekko · 19/03/2018 18:08

I may be wrong here. But lesbians don't have willys. It kinds of defeats the purpose when it comes to matters of the boudoir, surely?

PositivelyPERF · 19/03/2018 18:57

Fekko
I may be wrong here. But lesbians don't have willys. It kinds of defeats the purpose when it comes to matters of the boudoir, surely?

Why you horrible transphobe you! 😲 How dare you judge someone by what is in their pants! Didn’t you know that they are ‘lady dicks’? Or as I read on one delightful site ‘clit on a stick’. 🤢

Fekko · 19/03/2018 19:07

Well youd be awfully disappointed you were expecting, errrrt, 'other equipment' surely?

Like getting home and discovering egg fried rice in your bag when you ordered chicken chow mein from the takeaway. Not what you were really fancying.

Terftastic · 19/03/2018 19:50

It's so fucking ridiculous isn't it?

Women don't have penises. Never has a woman had a penis. Not a single one. People cannot change sex.

People don't really believe this shit do they? I mean, not actually. They're just being polite/woke/sensitive/right-on/trendy.......?

LangCleg · 19/03/2018 19:53

No such thing as a trans lesbian. It's grossly offensive to lesbians - and the way it goes on social media, often abusive and coercive too - to suggest there is.

Transbians are heterosexual males. The same sexuality as more than 90% of males. Simple.

LabourLostMe · 19/03/2018 20:13

I saw the spat last night. I struggled for a while to see where the MISGENDERING!!! had occurred. My summary:

LM referred to 'rich white cis gay men'.

TERFBlocker said it was a homophobic stereotype.

TRAs argued and concluded lesbians were definitely the biggest TERFs.

TERFblocker referred to a woman non-binary person who uses they/them pronouns as 'she'ShockShockShock

TERFblocker was pronoun-shamed and deleted their Twitter account and website within seconds.

LM declared themselves as the new Women's Officer TERFBlocker.

GardenGeek · 19/03/2018 20:15

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ShotsFired · 19/03/2018 20:24

Thanks to pp. I had been v confused as I assumed LM and TERFBlocker were in cahoots/knew each other/were all trans.

Why/how/who did TERFBlocker even come into being; and how did it get co-opted to (effectively) be Lily's shitlist?

SpringNowPlease2018 · 19/03/2018 20:39

I had a pro self ID friend tell me that she thought I was being silly when I don't spot satire on this subject.

I might have to send her a link to this because.......WTAF?!

To be fair we haven't talked about self ID for a while, I'm hoping she might change her mind. She is normally a very scientific rational person.

UpstartCrow · 19/03/2018 20:46

LM now controls the terf blocker list. Mull that one over...

Terftastic · 19/03/2018 20:48

Why/how/who did TERFBlocker even come into being; and how did it get co-opted to (effectively) be Lily's shitlist?

LBGT were all friends in times of yore (ie. 2012), but now the T is taking over.

LGB rights were all about getting actual equal rights. Marriage, age of consent, abolition of section 28 etc. Very different from what the T has become (in a shockingly short space of time) - which is a whole new political gender ideology. A change of language. A reinforcement of "ladybrain" and "manbrain" - ie. concepts and gender roles which feminists have been fighting for decades.

CertainHalfDesertedStreets · 19/03/2018 20:55

Fekko that is a fucking chicken chow mein in that bag. OK?

No it doesn't have noodles. But chickens aren't made of noodles are they? So that's really not the point.

And beansprouts? You want beansprouts? Like that's not SO reductive.

Yes it's got egg in it not chicken but they are scientifically exactly the same thing ok? What does an egg grow up into? Huh? Exactly.

Ffs. I am so tired of explaining science to people around here.

Fekko · 19/03/2018 21:09

I'm vegetarian! I don't eat chicken! Ever! Unless it identifies as a carrot. 😭

Reality · 19/03/2018 21:16

I’ve said this on Twitter as well but basically LM is a straight white man who can’t bear to be ordinary, so he’s co opted every label he can get his hands on. So far he’s Trans, Lesbian, Autistic. I don’t believe he’s actually any of those things (I mean, obviously he’s not a lesbian but I’d be amazed if he has any actual disphoria or autism.

Twenty years ago he’d have been a vegan Goth with Bipolar.

Fekko · 19/03/2018 21:18

Or a skinhead.

LabourLostMe · 19/03/2018 21:27

Reality

And LM was a MRA before being a TRA and challenged Race for Life on being a women only event.

ChattyLion · 19/03/2018 21:35

This thread is making me laugh and cry

needmorespace · 19/03/2018 21:41

Twenty years ago he’d have been a vegan Goth with Bipolar.

I am actually pissing myself...GrinGrinGrin

SpringNowPlease2018 · 19/03/2018 21:41

"twenty years ago he’d have been a vegan Goth with Bipolar"

Hmm, you're almost describing me so, no Grin

ChattyLion · 19/03/2018 21:41

OK but seriously - not sure if I have grasped what’s going on fully- but if a Labour Party Officer were doing stuff on Twitter with other people’s personal details without their consent, that would sound like a complaint would be needed to Labour HQ and to the Information Commissioners Office? (The regulator for the Data Protection Act)

ChattyLion · 19/03/2018 21:44

Grin Grin SpringNow

SpringNowPlease2018 · 19/03/2018 21:45

"nd LM was a MRA before being a TRA and challenged Race for Life on being a women only event."

I think this is the heart of the explosion of TRA crazy. They're MRAs.

Terftastic · 19/03/2018 21:50

Twenty years ago he’d have been a vegan Goth with Bipolar.

That is so true it's frightening.

If Lily'd been born 40 yrs ago, Lily would probably would probably have been at the Battle of the Beanfield

Although, it would've probably then been categorically proved Lily actually hadn't been there. Just said they were. That's Lily!

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