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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Excellent Article on Guardian and Pink News coverage of trans prisoners

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Justabunchofcunts · 29/01/2018 19:52

www.newstatesman.com/politics/feminism/2018/01/marie-dean-story-shows-there-s-no-simple-answer-how-we-treat-transgender?amp&__twitter_impression=true

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Justabunchofcunts · 29/01/2018 19:53

Wasn't it someone on here who picked this up and posted so that everyone decided to tweet?

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hipsterfun · 29/01/2018 20:03

Excellent balanced piece. Jolly good.

NotALabourMemberImAfraidLads · 29/01/2018 20:04

Great article. Thanks for sharing.

rowdywoman1 · 29/01/2018 20:09

Excellent article - link to be sent to everyone supporting self ID!

SisterMoonshine · 29/01/2018 20:12

I feel the tide is starting to turn.

Justabunchofcunts · 29/01/2018 20:12

The New Statesman has done some good work on this area before. Them and the Times are like the lone voices of reason in this debate at the moment.

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Justabunchofcunts · 29/01/2018 20:13

Yes Sister I agree, things are starting to shift a little bit in the media at least.

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MickHucknallspinkpancakes · 29/01/2018 20:21

Halle-fooking-lujah!

A voice of reason on possibly one of the most disturbing articles I've ever read from the Guardian.

PerfectlyDone · 29/01/2018 20:24

About time too!

Thank you for posting this.

NotAgainYoda · 29/01/2018 20:25

Thank God

Sandsnake · 29/01/2018 20:31

They’ve smashed that. Simple and compelling, without a sniff of bigotry.

Myunicornfliessideways · 29/01/2018 20:32

Brilliant. Thank you for sharing it.

NotTerfNorCis · 29/01/2018 21:00

Great article. Someone needs to share it with Fox Fisher on Twitter. They retweeted the poor-me version of Dean's case just three hours ago.

UpstartCrow · 29/01/2018 21:02

I would, but Fox uses terfblocker.

BlindYeo · 29/01/2018 21:11

Excellent! Very measured tone. Thanks for posting the link Just and thanks to Sarah Ditum for picking this up.

LangCleg · 29/01/2018 21:24

It's sad when an issue like this gets one, solitary MSM piece where the situation is accurately described makes you almost cry with relief, isn't it? Because all the other articles are misleading - either deliberately in service of an agenda, or because the journalist can't even be bothered to check.

SignoraStronza · 29/01/2018 21:37

I was just checking to see if someone else had posted this. I note that Sarah Ditum also writes for ther Guardian.

cista · 29/01/2018 21:44

I love Ditym! She's very articulate and sharp. Smile

Justabunchofcunts · 29/01/2018 21:49

Yes absolutely LangCleg. Your phrase about feet touching the ground (briefly) when you read something that confirms what you are seeing really captures what you are seeing but is being ignored or denied.

I also realised where else I recognised that feeling from. It was reading Margaret Atwood's the Handmaid's Tale, the novel, years ago now, way before the series came out.

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Justabunchofcunts · 29/01/2018 21:51

Also I think we are making progress here.

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IAmSpartaCis · 29/01/2018 21:54
Star

'If the gender revolution means a voyeur’s right to be seen as a woman is being placed ahead of women’s right to be safe from a voyeur, something has gone very wrong.'

THIS - with fucking bells on! I could kiss SD right now!

SweetGrapes · 29/01/2018 21:57

Yay! Brilliant!

If the gender revolution means a voyeur’s right to be seen as a woman is being placed ahead of women’s right to be safe from a voyeur, something has gone very wrong.

MyOwnShed · 29/01/2018 22:11

Good article!

LangCleg · 29/01/2018 23:01

Justabunchofcunts exactly! I wouldn't even mind if, say, the Daily Mail put up an accurate article and then ended with - "We hate feminists AND we hate transgenders so we don't give a shit who wins this particular fight" - I just want articles to represent what the various positions actually are.

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