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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Jonathon Swift / Jennifer Swift

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PersianCatLady · 18/12/2017 21:35

I just saw in the DM (sorry) that at an inquest it was revealed that a transwoman, Jennifer Swift, committed suicide in prison because "she" wasn't allowed to go to a women's prison -
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5191879/Transgender-prisoner-entered-suicide-pact.html

When the crime that led to "her" being imprisoned was first reported, "she" was referred to as Jonathon Swift -
www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/seaforth-suspect-could-face-murder-12345778

There will now be discussions about whether HMPS should have done more to protect "her" as she was in a men's prison.

Personally I think that more emphasis should be put on feeling sympathy for the family of the man "she" murdered.

However my main concern is that if the proposed changes to the GRA go ahead then transwomen like Jenny would have an automatic right to be sent to women's prisons to be housed alongside some of the most vulnerable women in society.

Am I wrong to feel like this??

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PersianCatLady · 19/12/2017 03:16

Does current legislation declare them to actually be a woman, though?
As far as I can tell they become a woman (MTF)

Section 9(1) GRA 2004 -
"Where a full gender recognition certificate is issued to a person, the person’s gender becomes for all purposes the acquired gender (so that, if the acquired gender is the male gender, the person’s sex becomes that of a man and, if it is the female gender, the person’s sex becomes that of a woman)"

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PersianCatLady · 19/12/2017 03:23

It's 18 weeks from referral. Presumably to get to referral you have to go through various appointments at long intervals in between
Not as I understand it, the 18 week target is from GP referring you to getting your treatment.

The aim is for it to be the same as any other NHS referral.

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DixieFlatline · 19/12/2017 03:33

if the acquired gender is the male gender, the person’s sex becomes that of a man and, if it is the female gender, the person’s sex becomes that of a woman

All kinds of wrong... Angry Thanks PCL.

PersianCatLady · 19/12/2017 04:11

Sorry Dixie that is the law as it stands now.

I really don't want the amendments to the GRA to become law as well.

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