Podcast here
For anyone who doesn't know Maeve Higgins she's a very funny Irish comic. Des Bishop is also a funny less so in my opinion Irish American comic. He is longer and better established than she is, in Ireland anyway. The podcast above was recorded in 2016, and I didn't hear it at the time, but I saw some some chat about it today on twitter and I looked it up. Haven't heard it all yet, but from approx 15 minutes to 55 minutes is absolutely mind blowing. His defensiveness is visceral to me and she is amazing, not pushing, but not giving an inch either.