Tell me if I'm unreasonable

[dontbesillyhenry]

Tell me if I'm being unreasonable to be really pissed off the new trainspotting film is set to the backdrop of the 'adult entertainment' industry and feel this film will once again trivialise the porn industry and feature gratuitous sex scenes for mere titilation?

Yanbu.

You're probably right but we haven't actually seen it yet so should at least wait until then to judge.

I get you dontbesillyhenry. I haven't seen it but am so sick to death of porn as 'wallpaper'. It does trivialise it, it does normalise it, it does de-sensitise people to it, it does portray the sex industry as just another hobby.

And I'm sick of having to have conversations with my 12 year old about perceptions of sex versus most people's real experience of it.

I was reading an article yesterday (Guardian I think) and some research stated that many young women think that agreeing to anal sex and being 'shared' with their boyfriend's mates is a fair price to pay for their boyfriend remaining loyal to them - FFS!

I'm all for consenting adults doing what they want to do behind closed doors but sick of the pornification of popular culture and where it leads young and vulnerable people.

Irvin Welsh cashes in on shock factor. I find it all pretty naff, but this flim based on his book Porno is meant to be pornified and to eliminate that aspect there'd be nothing left to use.

As Trainspotting was such a success the sequal sort of had to get made, and lots of people have been waiting for it (not me!)

So... yabu for expecting it to not get made or not to be based around porn,
but yanbu to dislike Irvin Welsh or the whole predictable porno in popular culture thing.

Hard to judge - trainspotting didn't glamourise drug use so this film might not glamourise or normalise porn. If it shows up how tacky and miserable the industry really is that could be a good thing? But I haven't seen it so can't say.

Unreasonable before you've seen the film, have high hopes of Hannah Minghella who knows a bit about sexism herself.

I'm inclined to hope it won't glamorise it simply because it's Welsh. He doesn't really do glamour and trainspotting was pretty hard hitting in many respects.

I heard that it is only very loosely based on the second book - and has been entirely rewritten and not by Welsh.

the original was very much male centric with the only female character a young school girl...hopefully this one has moved with the times.

That said i did enjoy trainspotting.

I don't think male centric is inherently bad though, given that it was about a group of waster guys who were presumably single because of the state of them! It will have needed a fair amount of rewriting to account for the change in the times if nothing else

"He doesn't really do glamour and trainspotting was pretty hard hitting in many respects."

The book was...the film definitely had some glamourising.

I didn't spot much glamour in trainspotting!

Compared to the book it is, flashy directing, set to 'cool' music...a lot of the grittier thought provoking stuff was left out, the character played by Kelley Macdonald and that whole situation was completely rewritten to make Renton more palatable (well I'm assuming that's the reason anyway) the baby's back story is missing so it seems to just appear and so the impact just isn't the same.

It's a glossier gussied up version of trainspotting.

As a stand alone plot, no, it doesn't glamorise drug taking, but as a whole it's not as bleak as it should be and nowhere near as dark as the book.

There is the argument that any representation by the media is glamorizing, no matter how it is portrayed. We perceive the media as some kind of authority, and therefore, any acknowledgement of porn (or drugs, or VAW) is a recognition and cementing of that issue. It's a bit like the old 'don't think of an elephant' trick - people immediately think of an elephant. If we accept and promote the existence of something, particularly through the media, we glamorize it.

Movies are far higher up the 'glamorization' hierarchy than, say, a Radio 4 discussion about the horrors of porn.

So, yeah, it glamorizes and legitimizes it, even if it apparently demonizes it.