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Meaning of abbreviation ‘BBs’ in a 1940s Book

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EllieQ · 19/07/2026 09:34

I’m reading Confusion by Elizabeth Jane Howard, which is set during WW2, and was puzzled by the abbreviation ‘BBs’ in a scene where one of the characters is thinking about the usual shopping list she would have for a trip to to London - the line is ‘BBs for Clary and Polly’ who are teenage girls.

Google hasn’t helped as I’ve just got results for Bulletin Board Services (know as BBS) or the BBC. I’m assuming it’s something underwear or toiletry related, but can’t figure it out! Does anyone have any idea what it could stand for?

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clary · Yesterday 14:35

Piggywaspushed · Yesterday 14:22

My goodness, all these posts later of bickering when I said straightaway that the were galoshes! Nice to know you are listened to... (qualified WKD reader with an American family...)

Indian rubber is very specific.

In the US if you just say rubber it causes hilarity ...

I missed your post Piggy or I would ofc have bowed to your greater knowledge.

I loved WKD and actually bagged a 1950s copy in a charity shop the other day.

clary · Yesterday 14:38

When I was a child I thought all the children in the books I read were wearing coats made of towelling (flannel coats you see!)

As a teacher of MFL I could tell a student who had read books from years gone by bc they knew words like content and tranquil (which are cognate in French... but no use if you don't know the English word)

clary · Yesterday 14:40

HilaryThorpe2 · Yesterday 13:57

I would still say rubber for eraser and rubber gloves for cleaning; I remember rubber sheets for protecting beds. Our boots were Wellingtons or Galoshes.

oooh are you another secret DLS fan along with SheilaFentiman (and me, tho not obvious from my name)?

TressiliansStone · Yesterday 14:49

borntobequiet · Yesterday 13:16

My parents married in 1943 and when they moved into their own home after the war their furnishings, crockery, cutlery and so on were all second hand. Many items were in regular use until my mother’s death in 2000. I still have a few bits and pieces.

Yes indeed.

We now seem to be in an era when many goods are seen as ultra-disposable. It's rather alien to me.

DistantEarlyWarning · Yesterday 15:09

DoAWheelie · Yesterday 13:09

Just laugh at yourself like the baked beans woman and move on. It's not that deep. You don't need to keep trying to justify a trivial mistake.

Well, I did laugh at myself, didn’t I?

I answered your question based on my knowledge, and based on your question, and was informed I had had the wrong end of the stick for more than 50 years. Pretty funny I’d say.

Only it turns out that Mrs McDowall wasn’t wrong after all. India rubber has two meanings - and the non-galoshes one apparently is used in What Katy did at School. So my “mistake” wasn’t a mistake, and I’m deprived of a funny story to tell.

You’re the one who is behaving weirdly on this thread. 🤷‍♀️

HilaryThorpe2 · Yesterday 16:38

clary · Yesterday 14:40

oooh are you another secret DLS fan along with SheilaFentiman (and me, tho not obvious from my name)?

Absolutely DLS fan! I love the Cazalets too. There was a wonderful TV adaptation of Something in Disguise in the 1960s. I would love to see it again, but have never been able to find it. EJH's life had a lot of sadness.

ginasevern · Yesterday 18:12

@Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g "I think in my early childhood (early 1960s) I wore a liberty bodice. I have a dim memory of fiddly buttons."

I was born in 1957 so a young child in the early 60's like you. My mum insisted I wore a liberty bodice and I hated the damn things. They were quite uncommon then, as opposed to say the 1940's, and most other girls just wore ordinary white vests. But I suffered terribly with tonsillitis and chest infections. I remember well the palaver of putting them on with all the fiddly buttons!

DeeplyUnlikely · Yesterday 18:19

HilaryThorpe2 · Yesterday 16:38

Absolutely DLS fan! I love the Cazalets too. There was a wonderful TV adaptation of Something in Disguise in the 1960s. I would love to see it again, but have never been able to find it. EJH's life had a lot of sadness.

And did you grow up to be strikingly beautiful and a genius writer? What did you and Peter decide to do with those pesky emeralds in the end?

Yellowpapersun · Yesterday 18:22

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 19/07/2026 09:44

I must ask my Mum next time I see her but I think in my early childhood (early 1960s) I wore a liberty bodice. I have a dim memory of fiddly buttons. Goodness knows why anybody would make dressing young children harder than it needs to be!

Edited to add I see rubber buttons were indeed a feature of the Liberty Bodice. That's what I remember. How very odd. I had ordinary vests later in childhood, thank goodness.

Edited

I had a vest and a liberty bodice on top. It was made out of fuzzy material, a bit like tumble drier fluff, with the rubber buttons that pinged up my nose when mum pulled it over my head. I think it was because of the general lack of heating in the 60s- we didn't have central heating at home or school. I hated my liberty bodice and have a vague memory of a battle of wills between mum and me when I didn't want to wear it. I'm sure I'd stopped wearing one by junior school.

BillieWiper · Yesterday 18:23

QuaintBeaker · 19/07/2026 09:37

Chat gpt gives the following suggestion

"Interestingly, this abbreviation isn't widely recognized today, but it has been specifically noted by lexicographers because of this very passage from Confusion. R. W. Holder's Dictionary of Euphemisms quotes the shopping list:

"...Start-rite shoes for Wills and Rory, summer vest for Aunt Dolly, esoteric haberdashery for the Duchy... BBs for Clary and Polly."

and glosses "BBs" as bust bodices."

Hmmm. I wouldn't necessarily believe that.

HilaryThorpe2 · Yesterday 18:54

DeeplyUnlikely · Yesterday 18:19

And did you grow up to be strikingly beautiful and a genius writer? What did you and Peter decide to do with those pesky emeralds in the end?

No he chose a different lady writer - but as for the emeralds.....

LadyAddle · Yesterday 19:14

Yellowpapersun · Yesterday 18:22

I had a vest and a liberty bodice on top. It was made out of fuzzy material, a bit like tumble drier fluff, with the rubber buttons that pinged up my nose when mum pulled it over my head. I think it was because of the general lack of heating in the 60s- we didn't have central heating at home or school. I hated my liberty bodice and have a vague memory of a battle of wills between mum and me when I didn't want to wear it. I'm sure I'd stopped wearing one by junior school.

I’m sure you’re right about the lack of heating in 50s and 60s being a factor in being forced into liberty bodices and vests. I think it could have been the limited range of effective medicines too, though - my family had lost a young relative to an illness which antibiotics would have sorted out nowadays, so they were really hot on prevention and days in bed if we did go down with anything. I only remember penicillin as a child, and aspirin ground up in honey.

clary · Yesterday 19:16

HilaryThorpe2 · Yesterday 18:54

No he chose a different lady writer - but as for the emeralds.....

Haha love it! My dad was a bell ringer and a DLS fan as well so he loved that one.

I’ve considered changing my username to EilunedPrice actually but I’ve been Clary for a long time.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · Yesterday 19:22

We had Disprin dissolved in milk. Yuk. We also occasionally had Milk of Magnolia. Can't remember what that was supposed to sort out, but I rather liked it. In my very early childhood rosehip syrup was handed out at baby clinics. I think it was a concentrated source of Vitamin C but it was very sweet indeed, which may have wiped out the health benefits, especially given the lack of fluoride in the water and toothpaste back then.

MonsterSister · Yesterday 19:24

Milk of Magnesia, I do hope?

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · Yesterday 19:52

Grin Oops. Yes, Milk of Magnesia. Lovely blue bottle.

Shangrilalala · Yesterday 22:02

As a coincidence, I was reading this thread last night as I am currently enjoying the last in the Cazelet Chronicles - All Change.

Only a few hours later l had to plunge into some research when two of the characters were being served by a ‘nippy’. I could not fathom the meaning at all. Turns out that a nippy was the title given to the waitresses in Lyon’s who were dressed in black uniforms with white aprons and headgear. They were typically dainty and had to ‘nip’ around the tea room at pace.

I am reluctant to finish reading the series; I’ve loved how EJH has transported me to a bygone era and widened my mid century vocabulary at the same time!

clary · Yesterday 22:05

Shangrilalala · Yesterday 22:02

As a coincidence, I was reading this thread last night as I am currently enjoying the last in the Cazelet Chronicles - All Change.

Only a few hours later l had to plunge into some research when two of the characters were being served by a ‘nippy’. I could not fathom the meaning at all. Turns out that a nippy was the title given to the waitresses in Lyon’s who were dressed in black uniforms with white aprons and headgear. They were typically dainty and had to ‘nip’ around the tea room at pace.

I am reluctant to finish reading the series; I’ve loved how EJH has transported me to a bygone era and widened my mid century vocabulary at the same time!

Ah yes those of us who are fans of the Cazalets and also DLS will know this thanks to Unnatural Death.

I must reread these as it's year since I looked at them.

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