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Meaning of abbreviation ‘BBs’ in a 1940s Book

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EllieQ · 19/07/2026 09:34

I’m reading Confusion by Elizabeth Jane Howard, which is set during WW2, and was puzzled by the abbreviation ‘BBs’ in a scene where one of the characters is thinking about the usual shopping list she would have for a trip to to London - the line is ‘BBs for Clary and Polly’ who are teenage girls.

Google hasn’t helped as I’ve just got results for Bulletin Board Services (know as BBS) or the BBC. I’m assuming it’s something underwear or toiletry related, but can’t figure it out! Does anyone have any idea what it could stand for?

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clary · 20/07/2026 14:35

Piggywaspushed · 20/07/2026 14:22

My goodness, all these posts later of bickering when I said straightaway that the were galoshes! Nice to know you are listened to... (qualified WKD reader with an American family...)

Indian rubber is very specific.

In the US if you just say rubber it causes hilarity ...

I missed your post Piggy or I would ofc have bowed to your greater knowledge.

I loved WKD and actually bagged a 1950s copy in a charity shop the other day.

clary · 20/07/2026 14:38

When I was a child I thought all the children in the books I read were wearing coats made of towelling (flannel coats you see!)

As a teacher of MFL I could tell a student who had read books from years gone by bc they knew words like content and tranquil (which are cognate in French... but no use if you don't know the English word)

clary · 20/07/2026 14:40

HilaryThorpe2 · 20/07/2026 13:57

I would still say rubber for eraser and rubber gloves for cleaning; I remember rubber sheets for protecting beds. Our boots were Wellingtons or Galoshes.

oooh are you another secret DLS fan along with SheilaFentiman (and me, tho not obvious from my name)?

TressiliansStone · 20/07/2026 14:49

borntobequiet · 20/07/2026 13:16

My parents married in 1943 and when they moved into their own home after the war their furnishings, crockery, cutlery and so on were all second hand. Many items were in regular use until my mother’s death in 2000. I still have a few bits and pieces.

Yes indeed.

We now seem to be in an era when many goods are seen as ultra-disposable. It's rather alien to me.

DistantEarlyWarning · 20/07/2026 15:09

DoAWheelie · 20/07/2026 13:09

Just laugh at yourself like the baked beans woman and move on. It's not that deep. You don't need to keep trying to justify a trivial mistake.

Well, I did laugh at myself, didn’t I?

I answered your question based on my knowledge, and based on your question, and was informed I had had the wrong end of the stick for more than 50 years. Pretty funny I’d say.

Only it turns out that Mrs McDowall wasn’t wrong after all. India rubber has two meanings - and the non-galoshes one apparently is used in What Katy did at School. So my “mistake” wasn’t a mistake, and I’m deprived of a funny story to tell.

You’re the one who is behaving weirdly on this thread. 🤷‍♀️

HilaryThorpe2 · 20/07/2026 16:38

clary · 20/07/2026 14:40

oooh are you another secret DLS fan along with SheilaFentiman (and me, tho not obvious from my name)?

Absolutely DLS fan! I love the Cazalets too. There was a wonderful TV adaptation of Something in Disguise in the 1960s. I would love to see it again, but have never been able to find it. EJH's life had a lot of sadness.

ginasevern · 20/07/2026 18:12

@Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g "I think in my early childhood (early 1960s) I wore a liberty bodice. I have a dim memory of fiddly buttons."

I was born in 1957 so a young child in the early 60's like you. My mum insisted I wore a liberty bodice and I hated the damn things. They were quite uncommon then, as opposed to say the 1940's, and most other girls just wore ordinary white vests. But I suffered terribly with tonsillitis and chest infections. I remember well the palaver of putting them on with all the fiddly buttons!

DeeplyUnlikely · 20/07/2026 18:19

HilaryThorpe2 · 20/07/2026 16:38

Absolutely DLS fan! I love the Cazalets too. There was a wonderful TV adaptation of Something in Disguise in the 1960s. I would love to see it again, but have never been able to find it. EJH's life had a lot of sadness.

And did you grow up to be strikingly beautiful and a genius writer? What did you and Peter decide to do with those pesky emeralds in the end?

Yellowpapersun · 20/07/2026 18:22

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 19/07/2026 09:44

I must ask my Mum next time I see her but I think in my early childhood (early 1960s) I wore a liberty bodice. I have a dim memory of fiddly buttons. Goodness knows why anybody would make dressing young children harder than it needs to be!

Edited to add I see rubber buttons were indeed a feature of the Liberty Bodice. That's what I remember. How very odd. I had ordinary vests later in childhood, thank goodness.

Edited

I had a vest and a liberty bodice on top. It was made out of fuzzy material, a bit like tumble drier fluff, with the rubber buttons that pinged up my nose when mum pulled it over my head. I think it was because of the general lack of heating in the 60s- we didn't have central heating at home or school. I hated my liberty bodice and have a vague memory of a battle of wills between mum and me when I didn't want to wear it. I'm sure I'd stopped wearing one by junior school.

BillieWiper · 20/07/2026 18:23

QuaintBeaker · 19/07/2026 09:37

Chat gpt gives the following suggestion

"Interestingly, this abbreviation isn't widely recognized today, but it has been specifically noted by lexicographers because of this very passage from Confusion. R. W. Holder's Dictionary of Euphemisms quotes the shopping list:

"...Start-rite shoes for Wills and Rory, summer vest for Aunt Dolly, esoteric haberdashery for the Duchy... BBs for Clary and Polly."

and glosses "BBs" as bust bodices."

Hmmm. I wouldn't necessarily believe that.

HilaryThorpe2 · 20/07/2026 18:54

DeeplyUnlikely · 20/07/2026 18:19

And did you grow up to be strikingly beautiful and a genius writer? What did you and Peter decide to do with those pesky emeralds in the end?

No he chose a different lady writer - but as for the emeralds.....

LadyAddle · 20/07/2026 19:14

Yellowpapersun · 20/07/2026 18:22

I had a vest and a liberty bodice on top. It was made out of fuzzy material, a bit like tumble drier fluff, with the rubber buttons that pinged up my nose when mum pulled it over my head. I think it was because of the general lack of heating in the 60s- we didn't have central heating at home or school. I hated my liberty bodice and have a vague memory of a battle of wills between mum and me when I didn't want to wear it. I'm sure I'd stopped wearing one by junior school.

I’m sure you’re right about the lack of heating in 50s and 60s being a factor in being forced into liberty bodices and vests. I think it could have been the limited range of effective medicines too, though - my family had lost a young relative to an illness which antibiotics would have sorted out nowadays, so they were really hot on prevention and days in bed if we did go down with anything. I only remember penicillin as a child, and aspirin ground up in honey.

clary · 20/07/2026 19:16

HilaryThorpe2 · 20/07/2026 18:54

No he chose a different lady writer - but as for the emeralds.....

Haha love it! My dad was a bell ringer and a DLS fan as well so he loved that one.

I’ve considered changing my username to EilunedPrice actually but I’ve been Clary for a long time.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 20/07/2026 19:22

We had Disprin dissolved in milk. Yuk. We also occasionally had Milk of Magnolia. Can't remember what that was supposed to sort out, but I rather liked it. In my very early childhood rosehip syrup was handed out at baby clinics. I think it was a concentrated source of Vitamin C but it was very sweet indeed, which may have wiped out the health benefits, especially given the lack of fluoride in the water and toothpaste back then.

MonsterSister · 20/07/2026 19:24

Milk of Magnesia, I do hope?

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 20/07/2026 19:52

Grin Oops. Yes, Milk of Magnesia. Lovely blue bottle.

Shangrilalala · 20/07/2026 22:02

As a coincidence, I was reading this thread last night as I am currently enjoying the last in the Cazelet Chronicles - All Change.

Only a few hours later l had to plunge into some research when two of the characters were being served by a ‘nippy’. I could not fathom the meaning at all. Turns out that a nippy was the title given to the waitresses in Lyon’s who were dressed in black uniforms with white aprons and headgear. They were typically dainty and had to ‘nip’ around the tea room at pace.

I am reluctant to finish reading the series; I’ve loved how EJH has transported me to a bygone era and widened my mid century vocabulary at the same time!

clary · 20/07/2026 22:05

Shangrilalala · 20/07/2026 22:02

As a coincidence, I was reading this thread last night as I am currently enjoying the last in the Cazelet Chronicles - All Change.

Only a few hours later l had to plunge into some research when two of the characters were being served by a ‘nippy’. I could not fathom the meaning at all. Turns out that a nippy was the title given to the waitresses in Lyon’s who were dressed in black uniforms with white aprons and headgear. They were typically dainty and had to ‘nip’ around the tea room at pace.

I am reluctant to finish reading the series; I’ve loved how EJH has transported me to a bygone era and widened my mid century vocabulary at the same time!

Ah yes those of us who are fans of the Cazalets and also DLS will know this thanks to Unnatural Death.

I must reread these as it's year since I looked at them.

ChessieFL · 25/07/2026 19:26

For the Cazalet fans on this thread there is a further Cazalet book coming out in September, written by EJH’s niece Louisa Young. It’s called The Golden Hours and is set in the early Sixties.

HoppityBun · 25/07/2026 19:35

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 20/07/2026 19:22

We had Disprin dissolved in milk. Yuk. We also occasionally had Milk of Magnolia. Can't remember what that was supposed to sort out, but I rather liked it. In my very early childhood rosehip syrup was handed out at baby clinics. I think it was a concentrated source of Vitamin C but it was very sweet indeed, which may have wiped out the health benefits, especially given the lack of fluoride in the water and toothpaste back then.

I remember we had orange juice from the clinic. I’ve often wondered about the effect of the sugar on the vitamin C in rosehip syrup but rose hips were collected in the ear for the vitamin C and made into syrup.

My mother bought kaolin and morphine when we were little. Apparently if you didn’t shake it up to mix the two together, you could drain off the morphine. I’d like to have given that a go, if I’d known.

Also baby gripe water contained alcohol and I definitely was given that

suburburban · 25/07/2026 20:45

ChessieFL · 25/07/2026 19:26

For the Cazalet fans on this thread there is a further Cazalet book coming out in September, written by EJH’s niece Louisa Young. It’s called The Golden Hours and is set in the early Sixties.

thanks sounds great

magimedi · 25/07/2026 21:23

Child of the 1950's - I had whisky rubbed on my gums when I was teething!! Loathe the stuff now.

Abidec drops in my breakfast milk in the winter - vitamin D I think.

Never wore a liberty bodice but remember the vile, scratchy chilprufe vests.

magimedi · 25/07/2026 21:24

ChessieFL · 25/07/2026 19:26

For the Cazalet fans on this thread there is a further Cazalet book coming out in September, written by EJH’s niece Louisa Young. It’s called The Golden Hours and is set in the early Sixties.

Will be looking out for that - might have to re-read the others first.

mylifeisexams · 25/07/2026 23:17

Thanks for this thread ❤️

upinaballoon · 31/07/2026 13:55

Haven't read all of this short thread. Why do I think that BB was an author? I am going to google.