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Harry Says His Fight Against Tabloids Is a 'Central Piece' of Rift with the Royal Family

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popthepopcorns · 25/07/2024 11:49

Is there anyone in the public eye more delusional and lacking in self-awareness than Harry?

The Duke of Sussex, 39, sat down for a new interview for ITV's documentary Tabloids on Trial, premiering on Thursday, July 25. In a preview released a day before the airing, Harry discussed his reasons for publicly pursuing lawsuits against publications over allegations of phone hacking and other unlawful acts — a contrast from his brother, Prince William, who reportedly quietly received a "very large sum of money" in a settlement from News Group Newspapers (NGN) in 2020 amid a claimed "secret agreement" with the royals.
ITV's Rebecca Barry asked Prince Harry in the clip, "To what extent do you think your determination to fight the tabloids destroyed the relationship with your family?"
"I think that's certainly a central piece to it," the Duke of Sussex replied. "That's a hard question to answer because anything I say about my family results in a torrent of abuse from the press."
"I've made it very clear that this is something that needs to be done. It would be nice if we did it as a family," he continued. "I believe that, again, from a service standpoint and when you're in a public role, that these are the things that we should be doing for the greater good. But I'm doing this for my reasons."

Prince Harry Takes Aim at Tabloid Phone Hacking in New Sit-Down Interview for Documentary

Prince Harry will be featured in "Tabloids on Trial," a new documentary about phone hacking from ITV premiering on July 25, alongside Hugh Grant and more.

https://people.com/prince-harry-appear-new-documentary-phone-hacking-hugh-grant-8675884

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MummyJ12 · 25/07/2024 18:25

And thanks to @Serenster too.

MummyJ12 · 25/07/2024 18:34

It baffles me how people can’t see through Harry’s motives. Phone hacking from journalists is no longer a threat. People went to prison and a newspaper was closed down because of it. Yet here Harry is, fighting for something that is no longer an issue and helping his famous friends while he’s at it. It’s not a public service because it doesn’t affect commoners like us. But he’s deluded into believing that he’s some kind of saviour.

Ultimately, he wants to limit a free press and freedom of speech so that people like him can control the narrative. That and to make yet more money. That’s all. He’s not campaigning against anything current and necessary such as homelessness, that’s his brother doing that. Something that is worthwhile, a service to the public and for the greater good.

Mylovelygreendress · 25/07/2024 18:41

Allegedly William received £1 million ( which he donated to charity ). Harry seems determined to equal or better that.

ConstantGarden1 · 25/07/2024 18:42

Serenster · 25/07/2024 18:10

If Piers Morgan is your witness then your case is already lost.

Funnily enough Piers Morgan owns his appalling conduct and his lack of a moral compass when he was working in the tabloids. He doesn’t admit phone hacking, no - but he’s been pretty open about other behaviour in various sources including his autobiography. I don’t have to like him to think he’s very likely telling the truth about Mohammed Fayed looking to get press coverage from him.

It sounds otherwise that you are saying Piers believes Meghan was lying because it takes one to know one? I’d agree with that. I don’t have to take Pier’s word for it’s though - Meghan was proven to have lied to the court (on oath) in her copyright claim. Harry withdrew his defamation case against the Home Office when it was made clear that he had was spinning his judicial review to avoid negative headlines, and would therefore lose.

It seems both of them would say anything to support the narrative they are pushing, iwhether it’s true or not. Who can forget Harry’s email - “We have to be able to say we had nothing to do with it” even though they demonstrably did?

…and the Judge said he did not think it credible that Piers did not know. In other words. A liar.

TinklySnail · 25/07/2024 18:42

cupcaske123 · 25/07/2024 14:39

I saw it differently. I saw relentless articles about her, some with overt racist overtones, scrutinising every aspect of her life and behaviour. It seemed to me as though she simply couldn't win and that anything she did was criticised.

From her interviews, she said that the press intrusion made her want to kill herself and when she tried to get help, she was thwarted.

I recall her leaving the country because she couldn't take any more. Whilst in Canada I believe they tried to strike a deal to be half in half out which was rejected. They then went to the States.

Megan has refused to come back to the UK and that's something to be ashamed of.

M got no more grief than any other royal woman. Only one arsehole was racist and he lost his career, as he should have.
Unless you are Meg then you know nothing and have no evidence apart from quoting an interview that has actually been proven to contain lies. Lies M&H told, not anyone else.
This is the reason they are disliked. Lies they told when PP was on his death bed.

ConstantGarden1 · 25/07/2024 18:44

TinklySnail · 25/07/2024 18:42

M got no more grief than any other royal woman. Only one arsehole was racist and he lost his career, as he should have.
Unless you are Meg then you know nothing and have no evidence apart from quoting an interview that has actually been proven to contain lies. Lies M&H told, not anyone else.
This is the reason they are disliked. Lies they told when PP was on his death bed.

You believe them to be liars because that is what the press wanted you to believe. There is context and nuance to everything from that period of time and taking a line here and there to fit your own biases does not wash anymore.

Cases were won.

MummyJ12 · 25/07/2024 18:47

TinklySnail · 25/07/2024 18:42

M got no more grief than any other royal woman. Only one arsehole was racist and he lost his career, as he should have.
Unless you are Meg then you know nothing and have no evidence apart from quoting an interview that has actually been proven to contain lies. Lies M&H told, not anyone else.
This is the reason they are disliked. Lies they told when PP was on his death bed.

Meghan has not had to deal with hate, misinformation and bullying from her own Sussex Squad. I would argue that is much worse than anything written by a journalist ever.

NotaDuchessIworkalot · 25/07/2024 18:47

M got no more grief than any other royal woman.

Not true. Racism.

It comes to something when women MPs stood up for her by putting pen to paper but the royal household did nada.

Serenster · 25/07/2024 18:49

ConstantGarden1 · 25/07/2024 18:44

You believe them to be liars because that is what the press wanted you to believe. There is context and nuance to everything from that period of time and taking a line here and there to fit your own biases does not wash anymore.

Cases were won.

I believe them to be liars because I heard what they have said themselves (and filed in court). What the press wants me to believe has nothing to do with it.

HardyGreyOP · 25/07/2024 18:52

NotaDuchessIworkalot · 25/07/2024 18:47

M got no more grief than any other royal woman.

Not true. Racism.

It comes to something when women MPs stood up for her by putting pen to paper but the royal household did nada.

This is true.

Death threats, Nazi sympathisers trolling her, racist comments about Meghan that the comms team at the royal household had to spend hours deleting and court cases with convictions for racism.

All a matter of record now.

JSMill · 25/07/2024 18:52

What a shame those female MPs couldn't have spoken up during the awful speculation about Catherine's health earlier this year.

salem4cuddles · 25/07/2024 18:56

Er didn't Harry use the written word to share personal details about his family?

Rhaidimiddim · 25/07/2024 18:56

NotaDuchessIworkalot · 25/07/2024 18:47

M got no more grief than any other royal woman.

Not true. Racism.

It comes to something when women MPs stood up for her by putting pen to paper but the royal household did nada.

Examples of racism in the press, please?

suburberphobe · 25/07/2024 19:02

She was a flawed human and not a saint.

Aren't we all?!

Harry dared step out of line from the status quo that is the Royal Family - and their "subjects" - how mediaeval.

I admire him. Can't be easy for him or Meghan.

Even talking about their kids are not real FFS.

Weird that Harry is getting the flack but not Andrew, the rapist.

Give me Harry and Meghan any day over that lot. I do like Camilla though.
Smoking, drinking and taking it up for abused women.

Misorchid · 25/07/2024 19:09

Serenster · 25/07/2024 16:37

Where are you getting this information from? That Diana posed for photos on a yacht? The only photos I've seen of Diana on a yacht are the famous ones of her by herself where she's staring out to sea, obviously papped and not posed. Yet another example of relentless press intrusion into her life.

Diana’s holiday with Mohammed Al Fayed at his St Tropez villa was a media sensation, in large part because Al Fayed was very controversial. He was milking this opportunity to show the establishment how close he was to Diana and her sons for all he was worth, and almost certainly letting the press know where Diana was every day. It also coincided with Camilla’s 50th birthday celebrations, which may also have factored into Diana’s decision-making too. She went out in a leopard print swimsuit and did a lot of acrobat dives from a pontoon in front of Al Fayed’s villa in front of the press pack on the actual day of Camilla’s birthday, knowing full well that both she and Camilla at her 50th party would be covered in the press the next day (and it was). Who looked better…?

I read that Diana’s invitations to photographers that summer were to make her ex lover, the Indian heart surgeon, jealous. She badly wanted to marry him, but his family rejected her as unsuitable (yes, unbelievable!) He just wanted a quiet life and hated the publicity.

If Harry spends long periods here, he might rekindle his love for the ‘old country’ and friends, the stays get longer and longer and could affect his marriage.

If I were royal, I wouldn’t read anything about myself or the family at all. That way lies madness and has led to this bitterness. Also no interviews, just like the Queen Mother. Why they open their traps I can’t understand.

Hughs · 25/07/2024 19:11

Speaking of Harry's 40th, that's part of the masterplan: he intends to celebrate it in the UK - and is hoping that the King and Prince and Princess of Wales will attend.

Christ, is this true?! Of course they won't go to his bloody birthday party while undergoing treatment for cancer. If he's lucky maybe the Spencers will turn up.

BigWillyLittleTodger · 25/07/2024 19:14

Death threats, Nazi sympathisers trolling her, racist comments about Meghan that the comms team at the royal household had to spend hours deleting and court cases with convictions for racism.

Social media, not the press massive difference and let’s not pretend it’s just Meghan targeted by social media.

Screamingabdabz · 25/07/2024 19:21

I agree they look and sound desperate now. No wonder they are seeking to dock back with the mothership.

I knew it would be a matter of time when I saw those surreal insta posts with that ridiculous “this my jam” countryside-riveria-bollocks.

This is a woman who would never risk her perfect mani or one second of her day dealing with boiling hot liquid sugar, nor eat such a product. Those so-called friends posing in hippy-chic dresses and wicker baskets with a singular hessian topped jar must be cringing so badly to be on the payroll promoting something so utterly basic and irrelevant to size-zero life, and being styled in such a batshit way

And funny how they hate the UK so much but still clinging on to the titles and using them at every opportunity… absolute piss takers. And too thick to even see themselves.

If I was William and Kate I’d be having none of it until the divorce was finalised and Harry had gone through full post-cult-reprogramming.

Janiie · 25/07/2024 19:25

BigWillyLittleTodger · 25/07/2024 19:14

Death threats, Nazi sympathisers trolling her, racist comments about Meghan that the comms team at the royal household had to spend hours deleting and court cases with convictions for racism.

Social media, not the press massive difference and let’s not pretend it’s just Meghan targeted by social media.

Exactly.

Have folk actually being living in a cave and missed all the crap and abuse the POW has been subject to in the last 6 months whilst post op and enduring chemo. 'Yeah but no but the Sussexes had it worse'. Bollocks.

Janiie · 25/07/2024 19:35

I wonder if hapless Harold who bleated on that the RF didn't 'stick up' for the Sussexes publicly and tell those on sm to desist has noticed that they didn't release a statement telling people to stop with the batshit conspiracy theories about Kate either and the stupid 'kill' the photo crap?

They rise above it and don't get into the frothing. Unlike the Sussexes who think they're in Eastenders.

Gorgonemilezola · 25/07/2024 19:37

Harry and Meghan don't like the media until they need the media. Wasn't it Meghan who strolled backwards and forwards in front of the DM offices in the hope they'd notice her, and used the main entrance to Kensington Palace in the hope of being spotted rather than a more discreet entrance where she could have come and gone unobserved.

Kate and William have been subject to some awful press intrusion, especially over the last 8 months or so, so Harry’s claim that they have a pact with the press is obviously rubbish.

Meghan and Harry (and I think especially Meghan) plant stories, use mouthpieces, all the time. There's something holier than though about their words and actions but the facts belie their claims.

Twistybranch · 25/07/2024 19:45

MummyJ12 · 25/07/2024 18:34

It baffles me how people can’t see through Harry’s motives. Phone hacking from journalists is no longer a threat. People went to prison and a newspaper was closed down because of it. Yet here Harry is, fighting for something that is no longer an issue and helping his famous friends while he’s at it. It’s not a public service because it doesn’t affect commoners like us. But he’s deluded into believing that he’s some kind of saviour.

Ultimately, he wants to limit a free press and freedom of speech so that people like him can control the narrative. That and to make yet more money. That’s all. He’s not campaigning against anything current and necessary such as homelessness, that’s his brother doing that. Something that is worthwhile, a service to the public and for the greater good.

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Exactly, remember when he was on that podcast and called the First Amendment bonkers. That went down like a lead balloon and he’s always quiet now about the US press. Even though it was only the US press that printed invasive photos of the ‘NY car chase’ and not the British, he doesn’t come out and complain now about the US papers does he?

It’s obvious what he wants to do and he sees the British press as an easy target. He hasn’t the guts to go after the US press. But that’s because he doesn’t really believe in this cause….its all about making himself look like some sort of hero and he needs an easy win.

MummyJ12 · 25/07/2024 19:59

I agree @Twistybranch.
He certainly doesn’t seem to have a problem with the always sycophantic sympathetic ITV.
It’s also sickening how he uses his mother’s memory constantly when he and William had made a pact with one another not to.
Only he has a right to privacy. He made that clear when he was so indiscreet about so many people in his book of woe and work of fiction, Spare.

salem4cuddles · 25/07/2024 20:00

Janiie · 25/07/2024 19:35

I wonder if hapless Harold who bleated on that the RF didn't 'stick up' for the Sussexes publicly and tell those on sm to desist has noticed that they didn't release a statement telling people to stop with the batshit conspiracy theories about Kate either and the stupid 'kill' the photo crap?

They rise above it and don't get into the frothing. Unlike the Sussexes who think they're in Eastenders.

No way would Peggy Mitchell have let them into the Queen Vic

Twistybranch · 25/07/2024 20:04

@MummyJ12

I distinctly remember him saying years ago that he had no memories of his mother. So why he believes he is the sole arbiter for the trials and tribulations of Diana I have no idea.

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