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Harry Says His Fight Against Tabloids Is a 'Central Piece' of Rift with the Royal Family

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popthepopcorns · 25/07/2024 11:49

Is there anyone in the public eye more delusional and lacking in self-awareness than Harry?

The Duke of Sussex, 39, sat down for a new interview for ITV's documentary Tabloids on Trial, premiering on Thursday, July 25. In a preview released a day before the airing, Harry discussed his reasons for publicly pursuing lawsuits against publications over allegations of phone hacking and other unlawful acts — a contrast from his brother, Prince William, who reportedly quietly received a "very large sum of money" in a settlement from News Group Newspapers (NGN) in 2020 amid a claimed "secret agreement" with the royals.
ITV's Rebecca Barry asked Prince Harry in the clip, "To what extent do you think your determination to fight the tabloids destroyed the relationship with your family?"
"I think that's certainly a central piece to it," the Duke of Sussex replied. "That's a hard question to answer because anything I say about my family results in a torrent of abuse from the press."
"I've made it very clear that this is something that needs to be done. It would be nice if we did it as a family," he continued. "I believe that, again, from a service standpoint and when you're in a public role, that these are the things that we should be doing for the greater good. But I'm doing this for my reasons."

Prince Harry Takes Aim at Tabloid Phone Hacking in New Sit-Down Interview for Documentary

Prince Harry will be featured in "Tabloids on Trial," a new documentary about phone hacking from ITV premiering on July 25, alongside Hugh Grant and more.

https://people.com/prince-harry-appear-new-documentary-phone-hacking-hugh-grant-8675884

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VerasMacAndHat · 25/07/2024 15:54

The quote from Harry in the OP is clearly him criticising his family for not joining his crusade and acting in the way he believes they should have:
"To what extent do you think your determination to fight the tabloids destroyed the relationship with your family?"
"I think that's certainly a central piece to it," the Duke of Sussex replied.

"I've made it very clear that this is something that needs to be done. It would be nice if we did it as a family," he continued. "I believe that, again, from a service standpoint and when you're in a public role, that these are the things that we should be doing for the greater good. But I'm doing this for my reasons."

He had the option to deflect that question and focus on his own actions without making any reference to his family.

I was also fascinated by that last sentence. He makes a declaration about what should be done for the "greater good". Then say "But I'm doing this for my reasons"

BigWillyLittleTodger · 25/07/2024 15:56

If Harry really did want to “reconnect” with his family he should have done it privately without all this press fanfare, this alone will tell the RF all they need to know that this is not genuine in any shape or form.

shockthemonkey · 25/07/2024 15:59

Oh my goodness, popcorns, what you posted at 13:18 is comedy gold!

MummyJ12 · 25/07/2024 16:15

As @Serenster rightly posted, William paved the way for this action and set the precedent for this through the criminal prosecutions that followed. But yet, Harry is still conveniently painting his family out to be the bad guys, saying that they are not on board with his legal actions and they aren’t working alongside him. He is so bitter against his brother who has been through exactly the same experiences and trauma of losing their mum as well as the constant media intrusion. Which is really sad.
I ask, why now? Why has he waited so long to take action.

Twistybranch · 25/07/2024 16:34

Here’s the thing. He is 40 very soon. How long can he possibly complain about the press, family etc. He seems at pains to point out that now he has the life he wants etc but does a happy, content person carry this much grievance? I think not. The press won’t care about him once he turns 50….maybe even earlier than that.

There was a time that Prince Andrew got lots of press attention in the 80s…now it’s just the occasional photo in the tabloids of him looking like a fat lump on a horse.

This is the way Harry is going. In ten years William is probably King and George will be 21 and the Prince of Wales .

Serenster · 25/07/2024 16:37

Where are you getting this information from? That Diana posed for photos on a yacht? The only photos I've seen of Diana on a yacht are the famous ones of her by herself where she's staring out to sea, obviously papped and not posed. Yet another example of relentless press intrusion into her life.

Diana’s holiday with Mohammed Al Fayed at his St Tropez villa was a media sensation, in large part because Al Fayed was very controversial. He was milking this opportunity to show the establishment how close he was to Diana and her sons for all he was worth, and almost certainly letting the press know where Diana was every day. It also coincided with Camilla’s 50th birthday celebrations, which may also have factored into Diana’s decision-making too. She went out in a leopard print swimsuit and did a lot of acrobat dives from a pontoon in front of Al Fayed’s villa in front of the press pack on the actual day of Camilla’s birthday, knowing full well that both she and Camilla at her 50th party would be covered in the press the next day (and it was). Who looked better…?

Harry Says His Fight Against Tabloids Is a 'Central Piece' of Rift with the Royal Family
Serenster · 25/07/2024 16:40

Piers Morgan has subsequently said this about the pictures:

When Charles threw a 50th birthday party for Camilla in 1997 while Diana was holidaying with the Fayeds during that last fateful summer, Mohamed Al Fayed called me from his villa to ask if our photographer (I was editor of the Daily Mirror) would be near the beach that morning. I could hear Diana in the back­ground, issuing instructions to him, and she later came to the beach in a leopard-print bikini and began doing cartwheels, guaranteeing that the next day’s front pages would be full of pictures of her and not of Camilla’s big night.

caringcarer · 25/07/2024 17:35

Harry is bored and sees demons where there are none. He loves to be the victim and blame others.

Theunamedcat · 25/07/2024 17:40

cupcaske123 · 25/07/2024 13:30

Yes Diana died while she wasn't wearing a seatbelt and her driver was drunk. You're obviously not aware that from the age of 19 she was hounded by the press and was the most photographed woman in the world. On the night she died she was being pursued by paparazzi who took photos of her as she lay dying.

The press also used to harass Diana by spitting at her and calling her names to get a reaction. She was manipulated into doing an interview on TV with fake information that she was surrounded by informants.

Megan was visciously attacked by the press and driven out of the country. She was suicidal. Harry's phone was hacked and it created suspicion against everyone he knew, thinking they were informants.

He has every right to be fed up with press intrusion.

As was kate they screamed whore at her to get her to react and cry pursued her they even persued camilla diana and meghan are not unique

Allthelightwecantsee · 25/07/2024 17:41

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Janiie · 25/07/2024 17:42

BemusedAmerican · 25/07/2024 12:57

He's still trying to depict himself as dragonslayer.

This.

He is a monumental prat and exactly like the tabloid reporters who he keeps saying he loathes.

Why doesn't anyone challenge his stupid speeches?! So when he wanged on about his media fight being the cause of his family rift why doesn't someone say 'really? You don't think your very own tabloid style reporting via Winfry, your tacky book and reality shows sharing private details may have been the cause of the rift???'

He is so deluded. Every opportunity he has of showing some contrition he blows it.

popthepopcorns · 25/07/2024 17:42

Twistybranch · 25/07/2024 16:34

Here’s the thing. He is 40 very soon. How long can he possibly complain about the press, family etc. He seems at pains to point out that now he has the life he wants etc but does a happy, content person carry this much grievance? I think not. The press won’t care about him once he turns 50….maybe even earlier than that.

There was a time that Prince Andrew got lots of press attention in the 80s…now it’s just the occasional photo in the tabloids of him looking like a fat lump on a horse.

This is the way Harry is going. In ten years William is probably King and George will be 21 and the Prince of Wales .

Speaking of Harry's 40th, that's part of the masterplan: he intends to celebrate it in the UK - and is hoping that the King and Prince and Princess of Wales will attend. Perhaps the 4 weeks beforehand are to be spent smooching and smoothing the passage for Meghan's grand return on the eve of the festivities...

😂

www.geo.tv/latest/555626-prince-harrys-uk-plans-at-risk-as-william-takes-major-step

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Allthelightwecantsee · 25/07/2024 17:50

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BigWillyLittleTodger · 25/07/2024 17:52

Janiie · 25/07/2024 17:42

This.

He is a monumental prat and exactly like the tabloid reporters who he keeps saying he loathes.

Why doesn't anyone challenge his stupid speeches?! So when he wanged on about his media fight being the cause of his family rift why doesn't someone say 'really? You don't think your very own tabloid style reporting via Winfry, your tacky book and reality shows sharing private details may have been the cause of the rift???'

He is so deluded. Every opportunity he has of showing some contrition he blows it.

I agree he is never ever challenged, oh for Jeremy Paxman of old to interview him.

Serenster · 25/07/2024 17:56

Both had very well documented problems with press intrusion, in fact after Diana died, the press relented slightly and agreed to give the royals more space. Yet Megan was still driven to suicidal ideation

It was actually Kate who had a much bigger problem with press intrusion - Meghan had to endure endless clickbait headlines and lots of online abuse but thankfully for her she met Harry well after Leveson, and after the tabloid reporting practices fundamentally changed.

As this year has shown very clearly Kate has also suffered a huge amount of online abuse and general clickbait headlines, but in addition to that she had more than a decade of mistreatment, including being harrassed by large groups of male paparazzis day and night as she tried to go about her everyday life. She had photographers lying in the gutter trying to upskirt her as she got into taxis (more recently, Sussex Squad members have photshopeed her pictures to make it look like she wasn’t wearing underwear in these papparazzi photos - both of these are criminal). She was essentially stalked day and night and her movements published so the Press could report on whether or not she was spending the night with William. As mentioned upthread, photographers shouting personal abuse at her to get a reaction. Her phone was hacked more than 100 times and her personal messages from William listened to. She had topless photos taken of her without her knowledge from more than half a mile away while on a private holiday….and so on and so on.

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shockthemonkey · 25/07/2024 18:04

"I can’t believe how willingly people defend the gutter press! No one spends the amount of money on a court case that Harry has unless they have conviction and truth on their side."

... really? I mean do you really think this?

By your reasoning, anyone who spends a lot on a court case is in the right, automatically, by virtue of the amount of money they have thrown at it.

Interesting, and I am sure there are legions of examples to prove you wrong.

Also, nobody here is defending the gutter press, as far as I can make out!

BigWillyLittleTodger · 25/07/2024 18:04

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Just repeating a part of @Serenster post for actual facts

And also just a reminder that it was William who first took his concerns that the papers were hacking into his and his team’s voicemails to Scotland Yard, resulting in criminal prosecutions, the Leveson Enquiry and the downfall of the News of the World.

What is underhand about settling out of court, not wanting all your voice mails and hundreds of private texts read out in court and donating the settlement to (I think Invictus)? There is nothing wrong with wanting to protect your family, with or without a throne. Funny how you see Harry as an all conquering hero when in fact it was William who went to Scotland Yard and started this whole enquiry, but then the truth never gets in the way of William hatred does it?

BigWillyLittleTodger · 25/07/2024 18:07

Sussex Squad members have photshopeed her pictures to make it look like she wasn’t wearing underwear in these papparazzi photos - both of these are criminal).

I know the squad are scum but jeez that’s disgusting, yet they get away with it.

shockthemonkey · 25/07/2024 18:09

Gosh, Serenster...

Looks like Diana knew how to execute a tidy dive. Is that a pike? Will she have time to straighten out before she hits the water???

Serenster · 25/07/2024 18:10

If Piers Morgan is your witness then your case is already lost.

Funnily enough Piers Morgan owns his appalling conduct and his lack of a moral compass when he was working in the tabloids. He doesn’t admit phone hacking, no - but he’s been pretty open about other behaviour in various sources including his autobiography. I don’t have to like him to think he’s very likely telling the truth about Mohammed Fayed looking to get press coverage from him.

It sounds otherwise that you are saying Piers believes Meghan was lying because it takes one to know one? I’d agree with that. I don’t have to take Pier’s word for it’s though - Meghan was proven to have lied to the court (on oath) in her copyright claim. Harry withdrew his defamation case against the Home Office when it was made clear that he had was spinning his judicial review to avoid negative headlines, and would therefore lose.

It seems both of them would say anything to support the narrative they are pushing, iwhether it’s true or not. Who can forget Harry’s email - “We have to be able to say we had nothing to do with it” even though they demonstrably did?

BigWillyLittleTodger · 25/07/2024 18:12

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It’s not just Piers who thought she lied, she did lie repeatedly it’s a fact but then I see from your post you are of the “my truth” brigade and not the actual truth.

EdithWeston · 25/07/2024 18:15

I think that it's very easy to lose the distinction between press intrusion (phone hacking, car-tracking as they did to Chelsey, long lens photography into places where there should be privacy, all papping of children) and press coverage/commentary by fair means but which is unfavorable/critical/nasty/mean/hateful (insert epithet of choice)

Vespanest · 25/07/2024 18:17

The current case against the press are for damages that the illegal gathering caused, and I guess most people are onboard with that. But these case are historical and the legislation has already been changed. The more financial damage the better but there is no dragon slaying and unless you are not from the UK or young the phone hacking was highlighted by the grotesque hacking of Millie Dowler phone. If that didn’t make people aware then that’s a disgusting state of affairs. We already know how bad the hacking was, this is now about compensation to those who are still within the statute of limitations.

MummyJ12 · 25/07/2024 18:24

BigWillyLittleTodger · 25/07/2024 18:04

Just repeating a part of @Serenster post for actual facts

And also just a reminder that it was William who first took his concerns that the papers were hacking into his and his team’s voicemails to Scotland Yard, resulting in criminal prosecutions, the Leveson Enquiry and the downfall of the News of the World.

What is underhand about settling out of court, not wanting all your voice mails and hundreds of private texts read out in court and donating the settlement to (I think Invictus)? There is nothing wrong with wanting to protect your family, with or without a throne. Funny how you see Harry as an all conquering hero when in fact it was William who went to Scotland Yard and started this whole enquiry, but then the truth never gets in the way of William hatred does it?

Great post. Very well put 👏🏼

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