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Harry Says His Fight Against Tabloids Is a 'Central Piece' of Rift with the Royal Family

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popthepopcorns · 25/07/2024 11:49

Is there anyone in the public eye more delusional and lacking in self-awareness than Harry?

The Duke of Sussex, 39, sat down for a new interview for ITV's documentary Tabloids on Trial, premiering on Thursday, July 25. In a preview released a day before the airing, Harry discussed his reasons for publicly pursuing lawsuits against publications over allegations of phone hacking and other unlawful acts — a contrast from his brother, Prince William, who reportedly quietly received a "very large sum of money" in a settlement from News Group Newspapers (NGN) in 2020 amid a claimed "secret agreement" with the royals.
ITV's Rebecca Barry asked Prince Harry in the clip, "To what extent do you think your determination to fight the tabloids destroyed the relationship with your family?"
"I think that's certainly a central piece to it," the Duke of Sussex replied. "That's a hard question to answer because anything I say about my family results in a torrent of abuse from the press."
"I've made it very clear that this is something that needs to be done. It would be nice if we did it as a family," he continued. "I believe that, again, from a service standpoint and when you're in a public role, that these are the things that we should be doing for the greater good. But I'm doing this for my reasons."

Prince Harry Takes Aim at Tabloid Phone Hacking in New Sit-Down Interview for Documentary

Prince Harry will be featured in "Tabloids on Trial," a new documentary about phone hacking from ITV premiering on July 25, alongside Hugh Grant and more.

https://people.com/prince-harry-appear-new-documentary-phone-hacking-hugh-grant-8675884

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Rosiecheeksandacoldnose · 09/08/2024 21:22

I have posted the links.

salem4cuddles · 09/08/2024 21:23

That say nothing, you will be posting excerpts from Take a Break magazine next

IcedPurple · 09/08/2024 21:25

Rosiecheeksandacoldnose · 09/08/2024 21:20

And of course there is this reporting (both the writers could be sued if this was incorrect).

”But now, in the newly added epilogue for Finding Freedom: Harry & Meghan and the Making of a Modern Royal Family, authors Omid Scobie and Carolyn Durand reveal how Royal staffers requested that their claims be taken back.
"Two of the individuals," the epilogue says, "asked for any allegations made to HR about their experiences with Meghan to be rescinded."

The epilogue also addressed the Palace's investigation into the claims: "Employees who worked for Harry and Meghan [were] invited to give testimony about her alleged behaviour in the workplace (a move also welcomed by the Sussexes, who sources said hoped the process would 'shed light on the reality of these rumours')."

https://www.cosmopolitan.com/uk/reports/a37450741/royal-staffers-reportedly-rescind-meghan-markle-bullying-claims/

You do know that it's extremely common for employees to be pressured into retracting allegations against their 'superiors'? I'd imagine that's especially true when your employer is a member of the royal family.

And the 'writers' could not be sued because, conveniently, they aren't naming names. Who exactly would you expect to sue them?

salem4cuddles · 09/08/2024 21:25

I'm still trying to figure out the difference between Diane Abbott playing the race card and you not invalidating the feelings of a biracial woman, any links for that ?

Rosiecheeksandacoldnose · 09/08/2024 21:26

The Sussexes had previously branded the accusations "a calculated smear campaign based on misleading and harmful misinformation" and a "defamatory portrayal of The Duchess of Sussex."

In Finding Freedom (via Entertainment Tonight), Markle's friend Janina Gavankar was reported as having stated, "I have known Meghan for 17 years, and I have seen the way she regards people around her and the people she works with, and I can say she is not a bully."”

So yes, my opinion is that the ‘bully’ word was never correct.

https://www.marieclaire.com/celebrity/a37452078/meghan-markle-bullying-claims-reportedly-rescinded-palace-staffers-finding-freedom/

Meghan and Harry Blame Buckingham Palace for a "Smear Campaign" Article

Their lawyers said The Times of London was "being used by Buckingham Palace to peddle a wholly false narrative."

https://www.marieclaire.com/celebrity/a35702394/meghan-markle-prince-harry-bullying-the-times-article/

IcedPurple · 09/08/2024 21:28

Rosiecheeksandacoldnose · 09/08/2024 21:26

The Sussexes had previously branded the accusations "a calculated smear campaign based on misleading and harmful misinformation" and a "defamatory portrayal of The Duchess of Sussex."

In Finding Freedom (via Entertainment Tonight), Markle's friend Janina Gavankar was reported as having stated, "I have known Meghan for 17 years, and I have seen the way she regards people around her and the people she works with, and I can say she is not a bully."”

So yes, my opinion is that the ‘bully’ word was never correct.

https://www.marieclaire.com/celebrity/a37452078/meghan-markle-bullying-claims-reportedly-rescinded-palace-staffers-finding-freedom/

And yet they have never denied the allegations.

Theinflictuswithrictusgames · 09/08/2024 21:29

Why didn't H&M sue the Times, Jason Knauf and Valentine Low if they were all lying about Meghan's bullying? The woman had a reputation for mistreatment of others before she entered the RF.

Theinflictuswithrictusgames · 09/08/2024 21:32

salem4cuddles · 09/08/2024 21:25

I'm still trying to figure out the difference between Diane Abbott playing the race card and you not invalidating the feelings of a biracial woman, any links for that ?

I also want to know why @Rosiecheeksandacoldnose only thinks Diane Abbot being black is not the reason she dislikes her. I mean, if you consider yourself not a racist, surely you know?

Rosiecheeksandacoldnose · 09/08/2024 21:34

IcedPurple · 09/08/2024 21:25

You do know that it's extremely common for employees to be pressured into retracting allegations against their 'superiors'? I'd imagine that's especially true when your employer is a member of the royal family.

And the 'writers' could not be sued because, conveniently, they aren't naming names. Who exactly would you expect to sue them?

If you want to believe that she is a bully without evidence and due process go ahead. I believe the situation was toxic, multi layered and that Knauf started something that was not what he claimed. As someone in communications who knew the effect of words I believe his use of words was deliberate and calculated. JMHO.

I want the report to come out but I don’t see it being supportive of Knauf’s perspective. JMO

salem4cuddles · 09/08/2024 21:35

@Theinflictuswithrictusgames we best wait until she finds a link

salem4cuddles · 09/08/2024 21:36

@Rosiecheeksandacoldnose you believe she isn't a bully because her pal said so

Rhaidimiddim · 09/08/2024 21:38

Rosiecheeksandacoldnose · 09/08/2024 21:26

The Sussexes had previously branded the accusations "a calculated smear campaign based on misleading and harmful misinformation" and a "defamatory portrayal of The Duchess of Sussex."

In Finding Freedom (via Entertainment Tonight), Markle's friend Janina Gavankar was reported as having stated, "I have known Meghan for 17 years, and I have seen the way she regards people around her and the people she works with, and I can say she is not a bully."”

So yes, my opinion is that the ‘bully’ word was never correct.

https://www.marieclaire.com/celebrity/a37452078/meghan-markle-bullying-claims-reportedly-rescinded-palace-staffers-finding-freedom/

So she knew Meghan when she was a working girl with limited profile and power. When she didn't have staff or rank, and had no weight to throw around.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 09/08/2024 21:39

Releasing the bullying report would expose the employees comcerned

FWIW I'm another who's content for it to remain confidential - not everything has to be plastered all over the media - but surely if it ever appeared the employees could be protected by redacting their names?

Edited to add: as for the continued attacks on Jason Knauf, isn't it obvious by now that some will never forgive him for outing the lies Meghan told about her cooperation with Scobie?

Rhaidimiddim · 09/08/2024 21:39

Rosiecheeksandacoldnose · 09/08/2024 21:34

If you want to believe that she is a bully without evidence and due process go ahead. I believe the situation was toxic, multi layered and that Knauf started something that was not what he claimed. As someone in communications who knew the effect of words I believe his use of words was deliberate and calculated. JMHO.

I want the report to come out but I don’t see it being supportive of Knauf’s perspective. JMO

Spare provides the evidence.

BigWillyLittleTodger · 09/08/2024 21:40

Honestly I can smell your desperation from here@Rosiecheeksandacoldnose

In Finding Freedom (via Entertainment Tonight), Markle's friend Janina Gavankar was reported as having stated, "I have known Meghan for 17 years, and I have seen the way she regards people around her and the people she works with, and I can say she is not a bully."”

Well her mate would say that wouldn’t she? Her buddy isn’t her staff, isn’t her subordinate so her views on her friend as an employer mean nothing and anyway Meghan’s friends are known bullies, Ellen Degeneres, Jessica Mulroney, Chrissy Teigen to name a few, birds of a feather…….

Rosiecheeksandacoldnose · 09/08/2024 21:42

Knauf did not just go behind M and H’s back but also behind x and y’s back.

“However, according to a new edition of Finding Freedom: Harry and Meghan and the Making of a Modern Royal Family , out August 31, the Times‘ report left out some crucial details about these alleged bullying claims. According to the book’s biographers Omid Scobie and Carolyn Durand, Meghan’s former staffers asked to retract their complaints when they found out that Knauf shared the details of their allegations without their permission.”

There are complaints, he morphs that into bullying.🙄

https://stylecaster.com/entertainment/celebrity-news/1225197/meghan-markle-bullying/

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Rosiecheeksandacoldnose · 09/08/2024 21:43

I agree. Again nothing said about bullying.

Theinflictuswithrictusgames · 09/08/2024 21:44

Rosiecheeksandacoldnose · 09/08/2024 21:34

If you want to believe that she is a bully without evidence and due process go ahead. I believe the situation was toxic, multi layered and that Knauf started something that was not what he claimed. As someone in communications who knew the effect of words I believe his use of words was deliberate and calculated. JMHO.

I want the report to come out but I don’t see it being supportive of Knauf’s perspective. JMO

You are in communications? Really?

What does this mean then?

Sure

(That's your response to one of my posts. What am I supposed to glean from that?)

You've continually made assertions about the Sussex Squad but completely ignored follow up questions regarding the Sussex Squad and their treatment of Catherine. How is that a good demonstration of your communication skills?

What are you trying to communicate with this statement about Diane Abbott (strangely brought into this thread by you and you alone for no earthly reason, but as you have, please do explain)?

I don’t think her being black is a reason why I dislike her. I would not put it past her to bring up the colour of her skin in an argument first though - playing the race card when convenient.

BigWillyLittleTodger · 09/08/2024 21:46

Theinflictuswithrictusgames · 09/08/2024 21:29

Why didn't H&M sue the Times, Jason Knauf and Valentine Low if they were all lying about Meghan's bullying? The woman had a reputation for mistreatment of others before she entered the RF.

Edited

Yes why do you think that is @Rosiecheeksandacoldnose we know how litigious the pair of them are yet they haven’t sued any of the above for deformation, slander or libel.

salem4cuddles · 09/08/2024 21:47

@Rosiecheeksandacoldnose ah, you agree with that article I see, the one that says Samantha was treated very harshly

Theinflictuswithrictusgames · 09/08/2024 21:47

BigWillyLittleTodger · 09/08/2024 21:40

Honestly I can smell your desperation from here@Rosiecheeksandacoldnose

In Finding Freedom (via Entertainment Tonight), Markle's friend Janina Gavankar was reported as having stated, "I have known Meghan for 17 years, and I have seen the way she regards people around her and the people she works with, and I can say she is not a bully."”

Well her mate would say that wouldn’t she? Her buddy isn’t her staff, isn’t her subordinate so her views on her friend as an employer mean nothing and anyway Meghan’s friends are known bullies, Ellen Degeneres, Jessica Mulroney, Chrissy Teigen to name a few, birds of a feather…….

The same friend who claimed on GMB that she watched the Oprah interview when it aired with Meghan and Harry; but was nowhere to be seen in the Netflix documentary showing H&M watching the Oprah interview as it aired. Somebody is a liar.

Mylovelygreendress · 09/08/2024 21:47

Rosiecheeksandacoldnose · 09/08/2024 21:43

I agree. Again nothing said about bullying.

It makes clear that finding staff willing to work for H and M was challenging..

IcedPurple · 09/08/2024 21:48

Rosiecheeksandacoldnose · 09/08/2024 21:34

If you want to believe that she is a bully without evidence and due process go ahead. I believe the situation was toxic, multi layered and that Knauf started something that was not what he claimed. As someone in communications who knew the effect of words I believe his use of words was deliberate and calculated. JMHO.

I want the report to come out but I don’t see it being supportive of Knauf’s perspective. JMO

To repeat, Meghan has not denied the allegations.

If I were a high profile individual setting myself up as some sort of authority on anti-bullying, I would most certainly deny the allegations and threaten legal action against those who had slandered me.

Why do you think she has not?

Rosiecheeksandacoldnose · 09/08/2024 21:54

BigWillyLittleTodger · 09/08/2024 21:46

Yes why do you think that is @Rosiecheeksandacoldnose we know how litigious the pair of them are yet they haven’t sued any of the above for deformation, slander or libel.

If there are facts, supported facts, then they would/should be made available. I am inclined to think none of them could cope with the daily onslaught that KP was dealing with back then. There was definitely a toxicity problem and people were choosing sides. I am also sure that the American woman was not liked by quite a few. Working for someone you don’t like is horrible. Been there. Cried a lot. Eventually left. I complained about it but never thought I was bullied. I would have been very annoyed if someone had said I was bullied when it was a personality clash of the highest order that was the root cause of my own experience.

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