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Harry Says His Fight Against Tabloids Is a 'Central Piece' of Rift with the Royal Family

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popthepopcorns · 25/07/2024 11:49

Is there anyone in the public eye more delusional and lacking in self-awareness than Harry?

The Duke of Sussex, 39, sat down for a new interview for ITV's documentary Tabloids on Trial, premiering on Thursday, July 25. In a preview released a day before the airing, Harry discussed his reasons for publicly pursuing lawsuits against publications over allegations of phone hacking and other unlawful acts — a contrast from his brother, Prince William, who reportedly quietly received a "very large sum of money" in a settlement from News Group Newspapers (NGN) in 2020 amid a claimed "secret agreement" with the royals.
ITV's Rebecca Barry asked Prince Harry in the clip, "To what extent do you think your determination to fight the tabloids destroyed the relationship with your family?"
"I think that's certainly a central piece to it," the Duke of Sussex replied. "That's a hard question to answer because anything I say about my family results in a torrent of abuse from the press."
"I've made it very clear that this is something that needs to be done. It would be nice if we did it as a family," he continued. "I believe that, again, from a service standpoint and when you're in a public role, that these are the things that we should be doing for the greater good. But I'm doing this for my reasons."

Prince Harry Takes Aim at Tabloid Phone Hacking in New Sit-Down Interview for Documentary

Prince Harry will be featured in "Tabloids on Trial," a new documentary about phone hacking from ITV premiering on July 25, alongside Hugh Grant and more.

https://people.com/prince-harry-appear-new-documentary-phone-hacking-hugh-grant-8675884

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VerasMacAndHat · 25/07/2024 14:57

Why are people quoting tabloid bollocks to prove or disprove anything?
You can find totally contradictory 'articles' appearing side by side on tabloid websites.

popthepopcorns · 25/07/2024 15:05

cupcaske123 · 25/07/2024 14:39

I saw it differently. I saw relentless articles about her, some with overt racist overtones, scrutinising every aspect of her life and behaviour. It seemed to me as though she simply couldn't win and that anything she did was criticised.

From her interviews, she said that the press intrusion made her want to kill herself and when she tried to get help, she was thwarted.

I recall her leaving the country because she couldn't take any more. Whilst in Canada I believe they tried to strike a deal to be half in half out which was rejected. They then went to the States.

Megan has refused to come back to the UK and that's something to be ashamed of.

They left because they behaved badly and were rightly criticised for their bad behaviour. Their popularity nose-dived, they weren't as important as William and Kate, they couldn't merch their appearances or monetise their titles and they genuinely believed that crowds had turned up to see them at their wedding and other events because they were personally special and charismatic rather than just tangential members of a high profile family...

Now the truth is sinking in, all the Hollywood A-listers are scorning them because they are seen as dubious and untrustworthy, and they can't offer any connections to the real royals that influential people aspire to connect with: William and Kate.

Hence Harry's Operation Crawl Back into Good Graces.

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PeggyMitchellsCameo · 25/07/2024 15:06

I grew up watching Diana as my fairytale princess. I now realise she was just a human being in an awful marriage. She may have played the press at times, but their treatment of her was rank as well. I still think she had something very special about her.
Harry - why he’s giving opinions onto his mother’s mental state I have no idea. We also know that he has been part of an orchestrated campaign to discredit his family. The press have fed on it, absolutely, but he knew that sound bites from Oprah, the book, the Netflix show would make headlines. Saying the rift has been created by the press is fiction. However, I disagree with phone hacking in every way.
Meghan - could not wait to find out all about her when she arrived. Lapped up the wedding. Found some of the headlines around her deeply distasteful. Cut to 2024 and I don’t want to know any more about her.
William and Catherine - also human, not perfect I’m sure. William could speak to his mother’s state of mind as he was her confidante. He acquits himself with class as does his wife, and you can’t fake how lovely their kids are.
Charles and Camilla - still undecided.

Rhaidimiddim · 25/07/2024 15:06

popthepopcorns · 25/07/2024 13:28

And as Harry prepares for his one-month goodwill mission....

https://www.themirror.com/news/royals/meghan-markle-prince-harry-snub-612038

...one of his preferred mouthpieces, People, is conveniently reporting on the fact that Frogmore remains empty...

https://people.com/meghan-markle-prince-harry-former-uk-home-frogmore-cottage-remains-vacant-8682699

Their other moutpiece, Newsweek, has two articles in as many days on Frogmore, one of them calling Chrles 'petty' for taking it off them but then letting it remain empty.

At the same time, these Sussex-mouthpiece publications have been pushing the narrative that H is intending to spend a month in the UK this summer ' just him - trying to reconnect with family and friends.

Something is going on.

sausawyee · 25/07/2024 15:08

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Harry Says His Fight Against Tabloids Is a 'Central Piece' of Rift with the Royal Family
popthepopcorns · 25/07/2024 15:08

Rhaidimiddim · 25/07/2024 15:06

Their other moutpiece, Newsweek, has two articles in as many days on Frogmore, one of them calling Chrles 'petty' for taking it off them but then letting it remain empty.

At the same time, these Sussex-mouthpiece publications have been pushing the narrative that H is intending to spend a month in the UK this summer ' just him - trying to reconnect with family and friends.

Something is going on.

Subtlety isn't a strong point

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cupcaske123 · 25/07/2024 15:11

Mylovelygreendress · 25/07/2024 14:52

Ah well as the late Queen memorably said “ recollections may vary “ . Maybe go back and read the statement they issued ( before they even spoke to The Queen).
Both Harry and Meghan have lied over and over so I find it hard to believe anything they say .

This thread is about Harry and press intrusion. I clearly saw the way Megan was treated because I saw the papers and what they were saying about her. She was torn apart by a pack of hyaenas who seemed intent on destroying her. I'm not surprised she left and I'm also not surprised that Harry saw similarities with his mother.

Rhaidimiddim · 25/07/2024 15:13

Mylovelygreendress · 25/07/2024 14:22

@cupcaske123

“Megan was visciously attacked by the press and driven out of the country”.

My regular reminder that Meghan wasn’t driven out of the country . She and her husband wanted to make lots of money whilst accepting the perks of being Royal ( remember the grandiose statement of early 2020?). When the late Queen said no , they flounced off .

Meanwhile, on another thread, I'm still waiting for example of these "vicious"attacks but 'straight outta Compton' and the 'exotic blood' one - both lauding Meghan, by the way - are all they have. Oh, and avocados.

Jackreacherstrousers · 25/07/2024 15:14

Thedom · 25/07/2024 13:41

The guy is seriously screwed in the head.

this is the guy who issued a rude statement saying his grandmother didn’t own the use of the word Royal, who made a rude public statement dismissing his grandmother with a ‘service is universal’ put down.

We all read those statements on their very own website.

Then came Oprah, Netflix, Spare, all trashing his family, plus numerous other opportunities he took to insult his close family.

He is one nasty bastard and we all saw him speak it in real time, the world saw who caused the rift.

What an idiot.

Edited

This absolutely!

His stupidity and blinkered views know no boundaries!

popthepopcorns · 25/07/2024 15:15

cupcaske123 · 25/07/2024 15:11

This thread is about Harry and press intrusion. I clearly saw the way Megan was treated because I saw the papers and what they were saying about her. She was torn apart by a pack of hyaenas who seemed intent on destroying her. I'm not surprised she left and I'm also not surprised that Harry saw similarities with his mother.

torn apart by a pack of hyaenas who seemed intent on destroying her

Seriously, such hyperbole.

Once again: Meghan behaved badly. She was criticised for her bad behaviour.

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Rhaidimiddim · 25/07/2024 15:17

cupcaske123 · 25/07/2024 15:11

This thread is about Harry and press intrusion. I clearly saw the way Megan was treated because I saw the papers and what they were saying about her. She was torn apart by a pack of hyaenas who seemed intent on destroying her. I'm not surprised she left and I'm also not surprised that Harry saw similarities with his mother.

Eh?

Vespanest · 25/07/2024 15:18

I just don’t understand Harry logic, his words seem to want a reconciliation of some sort whilst simultaneously causing more angst. The Princess Diana and the anger around paranoia, being paranoid is not an insult especially whilst she was being gaslighted by Basir and the press. None of Harry current cases are about Meghan. His only press one that is post meeting Meghan he had to walk away from after paying money as the judge warned the press defence was reasonable.

BigWillyLittleTodger · 25/07/2024 15:23

Megan was visciously attacked by the press and driven out of the country. She was suicidal. Harry's phone was hacked and it created suspicion against everyone he knew, thinking they were informants.

No she wasn’t don’t be so ridiculous.

popthepopcorns · 25/07/2024 15:23

Just a couple of minutes Googling some of the early criticism provides the following:

Meghan didn't seem to have any family at her wedding
edition.cnn.com/2018/05/16/world/meghan-markle-thomas-samantha-father-half-sister-wedding-drama-trnd/index.html

Meghan announced her pregnancy at Eugenie's wedding AND on baby-loss awareness day:
https://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/meghan-markle-prince-harry-slammed-15290992
https://www.brides.com/prince-harry-meghan-markle-pregnancy-news-princess-eugenie-wedding-7100002

Meghan storming out of market in Fiji and being rude to her aide:
https://www.skynews.com.au/lifestyle/celebrity-life/meghan-markle-accused-of-cutting-short-visit-to-fiji-feminist-project-after-snub-by-un-organisers/news-story/6874f4f63d475658fbdd4b1523718604

Weird cat-and-mouse game with the media over Archie's birth
www.marieclaire.com/celebrity/a34543592/prince-harry-meghan-markle-lied-to-the-press-about-archie-birth-to-protect-him/#:~:text=Prince%20Harry%20and%20Meghan%20Markle%20Lied%20to%20the%20Press%20About,birth%20to%20avoid%20the%20paparazzi.

Grieving mums slam Harry and Meghan for timing of baby announcement

Kensington Palace announced Meghan was pregnant soon after the Duke and Duchess touched down in Australia

https://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/meghan-markle-prince-harry-slammed-15290992

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EdithWeston · 25/07/2024 15:26

cupcaske123 · 25/07/2024 13:30

Yes Diana died while she wasn't wearing a seatbelt and her driver was drunk. You're obviously not aware that from the age of 19 she was hounded by the press and was the most photographed woman in the world. On the night she died she was being pursued by paparazzi who took photos of her as she lay dying.

The press also used to harass Diana by spitting at her and calling her names to get a reaction. She was manipulated into doing an interview on TV with fake information that she was surrounded by informants.

Megan was visciously attacked by the press and driven out of the country. She was suicidal. Harry's phone was hacked and it created suspicion against everyone he knew, thinking they were informants.

He has every right to be fed up with press intrusion.

Completely agree

But it's unrelated to the rifts with his family, which appear to be down to personal grudges (would you like another sausage with that), faulty memory (doesn't remember that he was ski-ing when the Queen Mother died) and the absolute deluge of snide comments made about various family members.

He's right to blame the tabloids for the relentless intrusions. But needs to stop blaming anyone but himself for the consequences of airing his dirty laundry in public

BigWillyLittleTodger · 25/07/2024 15:26

He has every right to be fed up with press intrusion.

And yet they have the paps on speed dial, Meghan hasn’t gained the nickname carparkle markle for nothing. What they don’t like is press coverage which they can’t control the narrative of or coverage that is completely fawning.

BreadInCaptivity · 25/07/2024 15:30

The problem is that it's just not panning out like they thought it would.

They didn't understand the difference between celebrity and royalty, thinking the two were interchangeable.

Without the "royalty" they are spent assets that hold very little allure.

ARO labels are already peeling off and Spare is the most dumped book with no paperback being published.

Of course H wants to reconnect with his family as he wants more fairy dust to rub off/more content to flog.

He has some good reasons not to like the press but they are not the reason he is estranged from his family.

That's all on him and the choices he and M made and the statements/interviews and books where they have set out in detail their distain and dislike of both the family and institution that provided the very platform from which they have conducted their grifting.

Mylovelygreendress · 25/07/2024 15:35

I remember Catherine being chased along streets and harassed as she tried to get into her car . Cameras literally in her face . Awful .

BigWillyLittleTodger · 25/07/2024 15:37

cupcaske123 · 25/07/2024 14:39

I saw it differently. I saw relentless articles about her, some with overt racist overtones, scrutinising every aspect of her life and behaviour. It seemed to me as though she simply couldn't win and that anything she did was criticised.

From her interviews, she said that the press intrusion made her want to kill herself and when she tried to get help, she was thwarted.

I recall her leaving the country because she couldn't take any more. Whilst in Canada I believe they tried to strike a deal to be half in half out which was rejected. They then went to the States.

Megan has refused to come back to the UK and that's something to be ashamed of.

As they say, recollections may vary.

Thedom · 25/07/2024 15:39

This thread is about Harry and press intrusion.

This thread is about a comment Harry made in a TV interview, blaming the media intrusion for his rift with his family.

we can all see he is trying to rewrite the narrative and trying to whitewash his public nastiness and blame the media for the personal insults he flung at his family.

Harry and Meghan are the central piece and main piece of the cause of the rift with his family.

How ironic that he is using the media again, another fricking TV interview, to try to twist what we all saw, read and heard.

He is a big time loser!

BigWillyLittleTodger · 25/07/2024 15:43

cupcaske123 · 25/07/2024 15:11

This thread is about Harry and press intrusion. I clearly saw the way Megan was treated because I saw the papers and what they were saying about her. She was torn apart by a pack of hyaenas who seemed intent on destroying her. I'm not surprised she left and I'm also not surprised that Harry saw similarities with his mother.

You are jumping the shark now, any “destruction’” she has brought entirely on herself and her awful behaviour.

milveycrohn · 25/07/2024 15:48

Harry has revealed private medical information about William.
He has revealed private text msgs between Catherine and Meghan.
He has revealed private conversations between Charles and both William and Harry. (especially after P.Philip's funeral)
He has taken photographs from inside BP, which were not allowed.
He has described in some detail the internal layout of various rooms at BP.
I did not really see any negative press covergae of her, apart from the 'straight out of Compton', which being British, and not knowing where Compton is, I assumed it to relate to class (written by an American journalist).
(I agree there was negative social media, but that was not the papers).
he has decribed both Charles and Catherine as racists (OK, that was Scobie, but he must have been given their names from somewhere);
He has decsribed Camilla as evil!.
Why would any of them talk to him again?

BigWillyLittleTodger · 25/07/2024 15:50

William and Catherine aren’t fools, they will see all this press barrage from Harry wanting to “reconnect” for exactly what it is, that they both are failing and need the RF to top up the old coffers and to get more content for more interviews, books and reality shows. I honestly can’t believe Harry is so utterly thick and deluded to think that William will let him within ten miles of his wife who they branded on the international stage as a racist.

popthepopcorns · 25/07/2024 15:51

BigWillyLittleTodger · 25/07/2024 15:50

William and Catherine aren’t fools, they will see all this press barrage from Harry wanting to “reconnect” for exactly what it is, that they both are failing and need the RF to top up the old coffers and to get more content for more interviews, books and reality shows. I honestly can’t believe Harry is so utterly thick and deluded to think that William will let him within ten miles of his wife who they branded on the international stage as a racist.

Oh, I can believe he's that thick and deluded, absolutely

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