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Harry Says His Fight Against Tabloids Is a 'Central Piece' of Rift with the Royal Family

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popthepopcorns · 25/07/2024 11:49

Is there anyone in the public eye more delusional and lacking in self-awareness than Harry?

The Duke of Sussex, 39, sat down for a new interview for ITV's documentary Tabloids on Trial, premiering on Thursday, July 25. In a preview released a day before the airing, Harry discussed his reasons for publicly pursuing lawsuits against publications over allegations of phone hacking and other unlawful acts — a contrast from his brother, Prince William, who reportedly quietly received a "very large sum of money" in a settlement from News Group Newspapers (NGN) in 2020 amid a claimed "secret agreement" with the royals.
ITV's Rebecca Barry asked Prince Harry in the clip, "To what extent do you think your determination to fight the tabloids destroyed the relationship with your family?"
"I think that's certainly a central piece to it," the Duke of Sussex replied. "That's a hard question to answer because anything I say about my family results in a torrent of abuse from the press."
"I've made it very clear that this is something that needs to be done. It would be nice if we did it as a family," he continued. "I believe that, again, from a service standpoint and when you're in a public role, that these are the things that we should be doing for the greater good. But I'm doing this for my reasons."

Prince Harry Takes Aim at Tabloid Phone Hacking in New Sit-Down Interview for Documentary

Prince Harry will be featured in "Tabloids on Trial," a new documentary about phone hacking from ITV premiering on July 25, alongside Hugh Grant and more.

https://people.com/prince-harry-appear-new-documentary-phone-hacking-hugh-grant-8675884

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Prawncow · 25/07/2024 12:00

I’ll start by saying I’m not a fan of his.

If my mother had been hacked, manipulated and harassed by the media and their behaviour led to to car crash that killed her, I don’t think I would feel particularly positive towards them. If I’d then been forced by my father as a child to stand and pose for the same media at organised PR stunts, I don’t think I’d feel particularly positive towards the media of my father. If the same media started treating my wife in a way that echoed the way they treated my mother and my father’s response was to do nothing, I think that would cause a rift in the family.

You don’t have to like him or respect him to see that when it comes to the behaviour of the media he had a point.

popthepopcorns · 25/07/2024 12:06

What I'm taking issue with is the suggestion that his "determination to fight the tabloids destroyed the relationship with your family"

So, it was Harry and his heroic stance against the evil tabloids that damaged his family relationships, not the fact that he gossiped about and slandered them publically for profit - in other words, did the same thing he's accusing the tabloids of?

Amusing to note how often those defending Harry begin with "I'm not a fan of his but.." as though to underline their sensible, impartial credentials. Most neutral people can see through Harry's self-importance.

Oh, and for the 1,305,000th time: Diana died because she sacked off her security detail and didn't put on her seatbelt.

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Serenster · 25/07/2024 12:41

And also just a reminder that it was William who first took his concerns that the papers were hacking into his and his team’s voicemails to Scotland Yard, resulting in criminal prosecutions, the Leveson Enquiry and the downfall of the News of the World. (Here’s a link to a video of reporter Tom Bradby talking about it, as he was directly involved - his discussion with William led to William leaving a voicemail for his then press secretary. That was hacked and ended up in the NOTW gossip column the next day, raising suspicions).

There are more, and often better, ways to win a battle, Harry, than pyrrhic tactics (don’t forget, the hacking that Harry is complaining about comes from the same period)

x.com/isaguor/status/1640840006624333830?s=61&t=9mUFAnTCINJez8ry1Mtg4Q

Midgegreenstreet · 25/07/2024 12:48

The vast majority of civil cases don't go to court. It's expensive, stressful, intrusive and time consuming. William decided to settle out of court and was awarded damages which is usual practice. There's nothing sinister or underhand about it.

BemusedAmerican · 25/07/2024 12:57

He's still trying to depict himself as dragonslayer.

ToofHurty · 25/07/2024 13:06

I think the interview with Oprah and his book were ultimately what destroyed his relationship with his family.

I like the RF, used to love Harry, DH and I had a royal wedding bbq for family and friends and had everyone over to watch when he and Meghan married.

Now I realise what a great job the RF PR team did in portraying him as a loveable rogue.

JSMill · 25/07/2024 13:12

It was bad mouthing his family to various outlets which caused his rift with his family. I think he thought that would increase his global popularity so he wouldn't need the RF when actually the opposite happened. Now he needs his royal connections, he is backtracking. It's just like when he told Tom Bradby that it was the media who called the RF following the OW interview. He is a man child who cannot take responsibility for his own decisions.

cheezncrackers · 25/07/2024 13:16

He's a deluded fool and you're right OP, a self-important one at that.

His crusade against the tabloids has bugger all to do with the rift with his family - that is down to all the awful things he's said about them again and again in interviews, his book and podcasts. If he can't see that, it's just yet more evidence of his lack of self-awareness and, frankly, his stupidity.

popthepopcorns · 25/07/2024 13:18

https://heatworld.com/celebrity/news/kate-middleton-meghan-markle-reunion/

Meanwhile, Harry and Meghan's new PR is feverishly reporting on their efforts to suck up to build bridges with the same Royals they've spent the last 3 years slagging off for profit...

“Harry was watching Wimbledon and was thrilled to see Kate looking so radiant,” says our source.
“He sent her a note to congratulate her and let her know how happy he was to see her out. He’s just so grateful that she’s on the mend and able to get back to her duties after taking time off – as is Meghan. Harry is convinced this is the perfect chance to try to repair his relationship with Kate and his brother, and Meghan is being supportive. Even though it’s an awkward situation for all of them, they both think the sooner they can put this all behind them, the better. Harry can’t believe it ever got to this point – he genuinely thought that by now they’d have found a way to reconcile – and he hates to think of it continuing. He needs to find a way to fix it.”

The delusion truly knows no limits 😂

Kate Middleton and Meghan Markle: secret reunion

An insider tells heat that Prince Harry and Meghan Markle want to repair the strained relationship with Kate Middleton. Read more on heatworld.

https://heatworld.com/celebrity/news/kate-middleton-meghan-markle-reunion

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cheezncrackers · 25/07/2024 13:21

Ugh - they're such a pair of hypocrites if this is true. Of course, in Heat it could just be made up bollocks! But the only reason they'll be sucking up to Kate is because they've finally realised how unpopular their public bitching about her has made them. It's tainted their shitty 'brand' and that's all they care about.

smilesy · 25/07/2024 13:28

JSMill · 25/07/2024 13:12

It was bad mouthing his family to various outlets which caused his rift with his family. I think he thought that would increase his global popularity so he wouldn't need the RF when actually the opposite happened. Now he needs his royal connections, he is backtracking. It's just like when he told Tom Bradby that it was the media who called the RF following the OW interview. He is a man child who cannot take responsibility for his own decisions.

I think his “rift” goes right back to the fact that it was suggested to him that he take his time with his romance with Meghan so that she knew what she was getting herself in to. He doesn’t seem to have taken well to that idea. He’s using the press battle as an excuse imo

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cupcaske123 · 25/07/2024 13:30

popthepopcorns · 25/07/2024 12:06

What I'm taking issue with is the suggestion that his "determination to fight the tabloids destroyed the relationship with your family"

So, it was Harry and his heroic stance against the evil tabloids that damaged his family relationships, not the fact that he gossiped about and slandered them publically for profit - in other words, did the same thing he's accusing the tabloids of?

Amusing to note how often those defending Harry begin with "I'm not a fan of his but.." as though to underline their sensible, impartial credentials. Most neutral people can see through Harry's self-importance.

Oh, and for the 1,305,000th time: Diana died because she sacked off her security detail and didn't put on her seatbelt.

Yes Diana died while she wasn't wearing a seatbelt and her driver was drunk. You're obviously not aware that from the age of 19 she was hounded by the press and was the most photographed woman in the world. On the night she died she was being pursued by paparazzi who took photos of her as she lay dying.

The press also used to harass Diana by spitting at her and calling her names to get a reaction. She was manipulated into doing an interview on TV with fake information that she was surrounded by informants.

Megan was visciously attacked by the press and driven out of the country. She was suicidal. Harry's phone was hacked and it created suspicion against everyone he knew, thinking they were informants.

He has every right to be fed up with press intrusion.

popthepopcorns · 25/07/2024 13:38

cupcaske123 · 25/07/2024 13:30

Yes Diana died while she wasn't wearing a seatbelt and her driver was drunk. You're obviously not aware that from the age of 19 she was hounded by the press and was the most photographed woman in the world. On the night she died she was being pursued by paparazzi who took photos of her as she lay dying.

The press also used to harass Diana by spitting at her and calling her names to get a reaction. She was manipulated into doing an interview on TV with fake information that she was surrounded by informants.

Megan was visciously attacked by the press and driven out of the country. She was suicidal. Harry's phone was hacked and it created suspicion against everyone he knew, thinking they were informants.

He has every right to be fed up with press intrusion.

Ah, but someone who was genuinely "fed up with press intrusion" wouldn't pose for paps in their swimsuit on their rumoured boyfriend's yacht to overshadow their rival's birthday (Diana) or call Backgrid to take pap shots of them leaving a restaurant in an attempt to compete against their nephew's birthday (Meghan).

Neither had an issue with "press intrusion". They just don't like negative publicity. They want to be in the spotlight, but entirely on their own terms.

There are plenty of high-profile celebrities that choose to stay out of the spotlight and we never see them papped.

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Thedom · 25/07/2024 13:41

The guy is seriously screwed in the head.

this is the guy who issued a rude statement saying his grandmother didn’t own the use of the word Royal, who made a rude public statement dismissing his grandmother with a ‘service is universal’ put down.

We all read those statements on their very own website.

Then came Oprah, Netflix, Spare, all trashing his family, plus numerous other opportunities he took to insult his close family.

He is one nasty bastard and we all saw him speak it in real time, the world saw who caused the rift.

What an idiot.

cupcaske123 · 25/07/2024 13:49

popthepopcorns · 25/07/2024 13:38

Ah, but someone who was genuinely "fed up with press intrusion" wouldn't pose for paps in their swimsuit on their rumoured boyfriend's yacht to overshadow their rival's birthday (Diana) or call Backgrid to take pap shots of them leaving a restaurant in an attempt to compete against their nephew's birthday (Meghan).

Neither had an issue with "press intrusion". They just don't like negative publicity. They want to be in the spotlight, but entirely on their own terms.

There are plenty of high-profile celebrities that choose to stay out of the spotlight and we never see them papped.

Where are you getting this information from? That Diana posed for photos on a yacht? The only photos I've seen of Diana on a yacht are the famous ones of her by herself where she's staring out to sea, obviously papped and not posed. Yet another example of relentless press intrusion into her life.Next you'll be saying that Kate posed topless.

Both had very well documented problems with press intrusion, in fact after Diana died, the press relented slightly and agreed to give the royals more space. Yet Megan was still driven to suicidal ideation. You have no proof that Megan arranged pap shots to compete with her nephew. It's idle speculation.

Diana was a member of the royal family and, as such couldn't stay out of the spotlight. She had no choice about where and when paparazzi would be hiding. Any magazine or newspaper with a picture of her would go through the roof, she was the most famous woman in the world.

MrsFinkelstein · 25/07/2024 14:07

It's been widely reported that Diana fed info to the Press when it suited her.
She was a flawed human and not a saint.
Trying to pretend she was does her a disservice.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/special/politics97/diana/press.html

Harry Says His Fight Against Tabloids Is a 'Central Piece' of Rift with the Royal Family
CoffeeCantata · 25/07/2024 14:08

ToofHurty · Today 13:06
I think the interview with Oprah and his book were ultimately what destroyed his relationship with his family.
(and JSMill)

Yes - he seems to be in a state of denial about all that! Perhaps he hopes that if he ignores it, we'll forget about it too - or let him off because he's such an endearing chap.

cupcaske123 · 25/07/2024 14:17

MrsFinkelstein · 25/07/2024 14:07

It's been widely reported that Diana fed info to the Press when it suited her.
She was a flawed human and not a saint.
Trying to pretend she was does her a disservice.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/special/politics97/diana/press.html

There's no evidence that Diana was feeding information to the press. There was a lot of backlash after her death because the press were blamed. The press pointed the finger back at Diana and blamed her for press intrusion.

Diana used the press to promote various causes such as landmines and AIDS. In the article you linked it says that she appeared to pose for photos when alone - yet again blaming her for press intrusion.

When Kate was photographed topless, the press blamed her and said the same thing, that she manipulated the press when she wanted to

Diana wasn't a saint, like everyone else she was flawed but she doesn't deserve to be raked through the mud.

Mylovelygreendress · 25/07/2024 14:22

@cupcaske123

“Megan was visciously attacked by the press and driven out of the country”.

My regular reminder that Meghan wasn’t driven out of the country . She and her husband wanted to make lots of money whilst accepting the perks of being Royal ( remember the grandiose statement of early 2020?). When the late Queen said no , they flounced off .

Hughs · 25/07/2024 14:37

Wow, that Heat article is truly deranged 🤪

When it doesn't work I wonder if they will a) pretend it has, with vague mentions of zooms with the cousins, or b) go back on the offensive about how unfair it is that William won't let them move on, how unhealthy it is to hold on to past hurt, how harmful it is to be estranged from family, and how they don't mind so much for themselves, but can't allow William's pettiness to deny A+L their birthright etc etc 🥱

cupcaske123 · 25/07/2024 14:39

Mylovelygreendress · 25/07/2024 14:22

@cupcaske123

“Megan was visciously attacked by the press and driven out of the country”.

My regular reminder that Meghan wasn’t driven out of the country . She and her husband wanted to make lots of money whilst accepting the perks of being Royal ( remember the grandiose statement of early 2020?). When the late Queen said no , they flounced off .

I saw it differently. I saw relentless articles about her, some with overt racist overtones, scrutinising every aspect of her life and behaviour. It seemed to me as though she simply couldn't win and that anything she did was criticised.

From her interviews, she said that the press intrusion made her want to kill herself and when she tried to get help, she was thwarted.

I recall her leaving the country because she couldn't take any more. Whilst in Canada I believe they tried to strike a deal to be half in half out which was rejected. They then went to the States.

Megan has refused to come back to the UK and that's something to be ashamed of.

FrippEnos · 25/07/2024 14:46

cupcaske123 · 25/07/2024 14:39

I saw it differently. I saw relentless articles about her, some with overt racist overtones, scrutinising every aspect of her life and behaviour. It seemed to me as though she simply couldn't win and that anything she did was criticised.

From her interviews, she said that the press intrusion made her want to kill herself and when she tried to get help, she was thwarted.

I recall her leaving the country because she couldn't take any more. Whilst in Canada I believe they tried to strike a deal to be half in half out which was rejected. They then went to the States.

Megan has refused to come back to the UK and that's something to be ashamed of.

This is the same woman that said she wasn't allowed to leave the country, yet travelled abroad during that same time.

So not exactly reliable.

Mylovelygreendress · 25/07/2024 14:52

cupcaske123 · 25/07/2024 14:39

I saw it differently. I saw relentless articles about her, some with overt racist overtones, scrutinising every aspect of her life and behaviour. It seemed to me as though she simply couldn't win and that anything she did was criticised.

From her interviews, she said that the press intrusion made her want to kill herself and when she tried to get help, she was thwarted.

I recall her leaving the country because she couldn't take any more. Whilst in Canada I believe they tried to strike a deal to be half in half out which was rejected. They then went to the States.

Megan has refused to come back to the UK and that's something to be ashamed of.

Ah well as the late Queen memorably said “ recollections may vary “ . Maybe go back and read the statement they issued ( before they even spoke to The Queen).
Both Harry and Meghan have lied over and over so I find it hard to believe anything they say .

CoffeeCantata · 25/07/2024 14:53

Harry is convinced this is the perfect chance to try to repair his relationship with Kate and his brother, and Meghan is being supportive. Even though it’s an awkward situation for all of them, they both think the sooner they can put this all behind them, the better.

Oh my God! Is he completely stupid??

Can anyone on this thread come up with a reason why William and Catherine would ever speak to him or Meghan again? In what way would that make their lives better? (I can see how it would make H & M's lives better, obvs).

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