Harry Says His Fight Against Tabloids Is a 'Central Piece' of Rift with the Royal Family

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Is there anyone in the public eye more delusional and lacking in self-awareness than Harry?

The Duke of Sussex, 39, sat down for a new interview for ITV's documentary Tabloids on Trial, premiering on Thursday, July 25. In a preview released a day before the airing, Harry discussed his reasons for publicly pursuing lawsuits against publications over allegations of phone hacking and other unlawful acts — a contrast from his brother, Prince William, who reportedly quietly received a "very large sum of money" in a settlement from News Group Newspapers (NGN) in 2020 amid a claimed "secret agreement" with the royals.
ITV's Rebecca Barry asked Prince Harry in the clip, "To what extent do you think your determination to fight the tabloids destroyed the relationship with your family?"
"I think that's certainly a central piece to it," the Duke of Sussex replied. "That's a hard question to answer because anything I say about my family results in a torrent of abuse from the press."
"I've made it very clear that this is something that needs to be done. It would be nice if we did it as a family," he continued. "I believe that, again, from a service standpoint and when you're in a public role, that these are the things that we should be doing for the greater good. But I'm doing this for my reasons."

What TV production work?

Immature.
States stuff as true. Abrasive, aggressive, belligerent.
No argument or reasoning.
I'm right, you're wrong and stupid - fact vibe.

Typo edits

Actually the media really should be castigating them more for this: Meghan’s (albeit unsuccessful) attempt to overshadow William with the launch was so desperate and brazen - especially now that we know there was nothing to launch!

They should have tried to find out why Harry was so late.

What made it such a passionate group is that they saw someone they identify with and saw her under attack, whether that was from trolls on social media or the tabloids." '

And then proceeded to troll and attack a woman who has done nothing to Meghan except be a bit circumspect about sharing a lip gloss (at a TV station where there were probs wall to wall make up artists with cases of lip gloss), suggesting some ill fitting dresses might need to be altered (having first hand experience of the way clothes worn will be figuratively torn apart by critics) and not offering a lift to the shops (no doubt Kate's security detail wouldn't have been happy about last minute plan changes).

He was on holiday with Chris Jenner's bf, who is very close to P Diddy. I imagine they were partying hard and lost track of time.

Exactly what I was getting at.

He kept the recipients of the awards waiting while he partied.

Unbelievable. So arrogant and entitled.

@Applecidervinegar641 And how is their moving on jam business doing?

@Rosiecheeksandacoldnose So Diane Abbott can " play the race card" but you would never " tell a biracial woman that what she experienced was invalid"?

The OW interview was full ( we now know) of rambling lies. (If you ask, what lies, my answer will be - Groundhog Day, asked and answered many times.)

The RF responded to the one claim - racism - that was damaging. With the 'some recollections may vary' response.

And, blow me, H& M's recollections of this racist incident indeed do vary with their telling.

"Recollections may vary" was a likely a very considered way of saying that didn't happen, just because they didnt accuse h and m of lying doesn't mean the accusations were true

We have no idea if Kate ever brought up the issue of Archie's colour. They've lied about so much, they couldn't even agree about that on the OW interview!

@Rosiecheeksandacoldnose I agree completely with you on the report. It should absolutely be released. I can’t imagine why they wouldn’t release it. I’m sure the previous employees involved would support the findings being made public. Do we know if they themselves know what’s in the report?

I also agree to an extent that there will be extremists in the SS and some who are more moderate in their support.
I do wish that Harry and Meghan would speak out against the extreme examples then. Including Bouzy who they have engaged the services of previously. It feels very cult like. There was a previous member who has spoken out about her experiences, both while part of the Sussex Squad and the bullying and harassment of her following leaving it. She exposed their tactics and they work as an organisation.
It makes me wonder if this is why Meghan and Harry don’t speak out about them. It would also feel like absolutely everyone is against them then, and they’d rather the support of people who don’t necessarily conduct themselves well rather than have no support at all. I also can only imagine how bad it would be if the squad were to turn against them. The squad are pretty scary.

@Rosiecheeksandacoldnose

“My opinion is that the Royal Family should have released the results of the third party investigation. As was requested by Harry and Meghan. The institution did not. That speaks volumes .”

When did H and M request the report be published ? They ( obviously) claimed the allegations were false but I gave absolutely no recollection of them demanding the report be released .
Can you clarify ?

'I really don’t believe Catherine is racist but I question why she would bring up a child’s skin colour in the early stages of Harry’s relationship with Meghan'

Because Harry and Meghan besmirched the whole rf with their claims on Oprah, backpeddled as quick as their little legs could carry them, obviously spilled the beans to odious Scobie yet still have not stated what was said, it could have been something as innocuous as a Harry/Meghan baby would look gorgeous with ginger hair and a darker complexion or imagine, gorgeous ginger curls.

👏👏👏 Thank you for this brilliant post, you have articulated precisely my frustrations at these many faux “new” posters who post as if it’s the first time they have stumbled across these threads claiming to not be fans of H&M when in fact they are anything but stalwarts, it’s disingenuous and goady.

I don’t think her being black is a reason why I dislike her. I would not put it past her to bring up the colour of her skin in an argument first though - playing the race card when convenient.

You are seriously going to give a lecture to others about racism when you have written that. You don't think her being black is the reason you dislike her? Why bring her up at all, she has absolutely nothing to do with this topic? Yet bring her up you have.

As I did not live in their environment I, as a white woman, would not dare tell a biracial woman that what she experienced

But you will do that to Diane Abbott, having not experienced her long life of service and being a high profile MP, if she brings up race as a reason for the criticism she receives.

William said they were not a racist family immediately after the programme aired. He did not deny any of the specific claims,

There were no specific claims to deny. Harry and Meghan could not even agree when the "conversation" happened. They certainly did not say who said whatever unspecified thing was said. Meghan was not part of the conversation. Harry said he didn't want to talk about it. They picked up an anti racism award based on nothing but a second hand, unspecified rumour from a woman with an axe to grind. And 18 months later, Harry denied that Meghan alleged any racism. The apparent racist conversation was not brought up in Spare or the Netflix documentary.

In addition it’s come to light that letters were exchanged by Meghan and Charles, so there was obviously hurt on Meghan’s side that was addressed by our HOS

Once again , rumour, via Omid Scobie, in a paraphrasing of a letter's apparent contents set out in a publication that has had to be pulped (Dutch Endgame). The only source for which letter is the Sussexes, hence the obvious conclusion that they absolutely leak private information to the press. What are the exact contents of that letter? You don't know because nobody does. And you have no idea what the motivation of the letter was, who started the correspondence and whether it has in fact been an exchange of correspondence back and forth or just a "set up" letter sent from Meghan in an attempt to set a trap - which imo is what her intention was in her letter to her father (as supported by her email exchanges with Jason Knauf).

I really don’t believe Catherine is racist but I question why she would bring up a child’s skin colour in the early stages of Harry’s relationship with Meghan.

On what basis do you believe this even happened? Where's your proof?

Cf my comments about Diane Abbott. Why did you bring up her skin colour?

What do you think about the following comments about skin colour?

1. Harry on Stephen Colbert. Talking about how he worried his ginger genes would not be able to "stand up" to Meghan's genes - presumably he means her African American genes, since her father's genes are ginger and blue eyed. He then expressed his relief that his daughter took after him and not her. Do you think that is racist? To be relieved your daughter shows no signs of being black?
2. Harry and Meghan on Netflix. Making a throw away, almost disdainful remark about Archie looking like Meghan (meaning, I assume, brown eyed and dark haired, olive skinned). But then waxing lyrical about Lily's looks and her blue, blue, blue eyes. What do you think Doria might think about their delight in her grand-daughter not looking anything like her? A bit of a micro aggression, perhaps?

As for the supposed bullying by the Sussexes. My opinion is that the Royal Family should have released the results of the third party investigation. As was requested by Harry and Meghan

Did they? I’ve not heard of that can you provide a link from a reputable source as I’ve looked and cannot find one, thanks.

I’m sure that never happened!

The very last thing Meghan would want would be for that bullying report to be released!

As I did not live in their environment I, as a white woman, would not dare tell a biracial woman that what she experienced, felt and believed was somehow invalid

Neither would I, @Rosiecheeksandacoldnose, and yet that's exactly what Harry did in saying "Meghan and I love Susan Hussey - I also know that what she meant; she never meant any harm at all"

Given the massed ranks of outrage which broke over her reported remarks, and considering the better understanding of racism which Harry insists he's reached I found that very surprising. Meghan's support among the wider public may be declining but you'd hope she'd still get some from her own husband - or if he couldn't do that then he could have just said nothing

Then again my personal view (and it is just a view since nobody can know) is that after Oprah the palace would naturally have asked who the "royal racists" were and what had been said ... and if neither could give a coherent reply it may be that Harry's "explanation" was the result of words being had

See also Scobie; strange that almost the last we heard of his detailed royal reporting was when he named Charles and Catherine in the Dutch edition of his tacky tome ... or maybe not strange at all, if that led to consequences for him

Had Harry and Meghan wanted the report released then I expect it would have been.

They have given enough interviews, tv shows, written Spare - if they had wanted it released we’d know about it. From them.

Unless someone can show me where in Spare or NF show they request I won’t believe the claims they wanted it released. And I’m quite prepared to be wrong!

@Rosiecheeksandacoldnose
I don’t care if Abbot is a super bright Oxford graduate, she is a basket case when it comes to policy. I don’t think her being black is a reason why I dislike her. I would not put it past her to bring up the colour of her skin in an argument first though - playing the race card when convenient.

😱😱 I can’t believe you actually wrote that and then write this when it’s about
Meghan
I , as a white woman, would not dare tell a biracial woman that what she experienced, felt and believed was somehow invalid Yet it’s fine to say Diane Abbot would play the race card but Meghan must remain unquestioned on her motives?