Harry Says His Fight Against Tabloids Is a 'Central Piece' of Rift with the Royal Family

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Is there anyone in the public eye more delusional and lacking in self-awareness than Harry?

The Duke of Sussex, 39, sat down for a new interview for ITV's documentary Tabloids on Trial, premiering on Thursday, July 25. In a preview released a day before the airing, Harry discussed his reasons for publicly pursuing lawsuits against publications over allegations of phone hacking and other unlawful acts — a contrast from his brother, Prince William, who reportedly quietly received a "very large sum of money" in a settlement from News Group Newspapers (NGN) in 2020 amid a claimed "secret agreement" with the royals.
ITV's Rebecca Barry asked Prince Harry in the clip, "To what extent do you think your determination to fight the tabloids destroyed the relationship with your family?"
"I think that's certainly a central piece to it," the Duke of Sussex replied. "That's a hard question to answer because anything I say about my family results in a torrent of abuse from the press."
"I've made it very clear that this is something that needs to be done. It would be nice if we did it as a family," he continued. "I believe that, again, from a service standpoint and when you're in a public role, that these are the things that we should be doing for the greater good. But I'm doing this for my reasons."

Thanks for clearing that up. ☺️

Fantastic. Enjoy your royal heroes!

Quite. And hopefully the moderators are canny to the proven sock-puppeting and bot posting that's happened on here in the last few months. The friendly to H&M posters disappearing may well be a combination of good moderation and people simply finding sticking up for them untenable.

This is the post I was responding to. @MummyJ12 .

I can link to Meghan and Harry’s closeness to the SS but you only have to look up Peace Odetero and you’ll see for yourself. Members of the SS travel with them.

The snag in that is that it's all later justification.

Their original position was that they wanted to carve out a new role in collaboration with the Queen. The idea that they were forced out came later, when they were told "no thanks" to the half in/half out idea.

And there is no evidence to show that the Palace is leaky (they appear to have done a marvellous job in the other direction, preventing much of what Harry described in Spare ever reaching the public domain before he put it there). IIRC, no-one has ever been able to link articles that were planted by the Palace to smear. (Jephson wasn't a completely neutral source from this, as he would have been aware of many of the lies from and documents forged on behalf of Bashir that we now know influenced Diana's beliefs and therefore that of her office. All pre-Levenson).

Not my heroes, I’m too modern for that. I just like them. ☺️

Crossed wires! 🙃

Clearly, they had to be the initiators of wanting to change their lives from what it was. It obviously wasn’t working for them and they were deeply unhappy. The Royals didn’t want to have a half in and out, so that’s okay. After that they did and do things their own way. Same with the Royal family now.

I’ll just keep on watching the royals who left as they are more interesting to me.

I like you. 😂

Other members worth looking up are Sarah Data and Ian Sexton.
Meghan reached out to Ian a few years ago as he is very high up in a data tech company and he helps the SS along with the SM platforms (putting it in a nice way).
Sarah Data worked for Google and Facebook and has just had to take a step back because she was exhausted and said that the SS agenda was a full time job, it was someone else’s turn. However, she’s still an active member.

This is much more fun than cleaning my kitchen! 😆

It’s quite right that those awful comments were jumped on. Some of those posts about Catherine and her illness were hideous.

However there were posters here who were more pro H & M who were polite and reasonable who gave up posting I suspect because everything they posted was picked on rather unpleasantly and they had personal comments directed at them. Sorry but it wasn’t fair.

Is it so bad to ask for a bit of balance please?

I am not convinced that you can tar a whole spontaneous group of people worldwide who are in the majority not white as a ‘dangerous’ group. As with anything, however, you always need to tread with care. Online bullying of people is a serious issue today and Meghan has been a victim of this and also Catherine.

I remember these, love Tricia.

What's 'balance'?

People can only express their individual opinions. If those opinions tend to support one particular viewpoint more than another one, should people not post so as to achieve some theoretical 'balance'?

I agree, balance is good. I personally won’t engage with persons if they are personal. Some respectful posts here but I think avoiding a flame situation is always a better policy.

They have not moved on. Spare (and the interviews Harry gave about it) and the Netflix documentary are 20 months old, and the content of those vehicles was resolutely anti RF and all about their apparently terrible experiences being two of the most privileged people on the planet. Spare the paperback is, we are told, in the pipeline, for which Harry will be needing to create supplementary chapters, no doubt from the myriad of information he says he had to leave out (none too subtle threat there of book 2). They clearly gave material to Omid Scobie for his anti RF book that was published just last November. They continually whine about what they are not getting from the RF (access, money) through the US tabloids, which clearly get their stories straight from Montecito.

Just in the last 2 weeks we had Harry complains to ITV about phone hacking (a practice that has not occurred in more than 10 years and of which he was barely a victim) and a none too subtle hint from his wife that she has barely "scraped the surface" of her alleged suicidal feelings - really? She's living in the therapy capital of the world with money to buy the world's best therapy and she's barely scraped the surface? That's moving on, is it? Still banging on about how the press lost you your ex girlfriend is moving on? Or is it just more none too subtle hints that they both have further dirt to dish on the RF?

Moving on would be giving up the tiles and living independently, not expecting people to show deference and call them by titles that have no meaning in their current world. It would mean stopping monetising their RF connections and stop demanding money and resources from a country they no longer serve for security they only need because they persist in calling themselves royal. It would mean not inflicting the RF legacy they hate so much on their own children. It would mean stopping exploiting a long dead woman and her unique set of circumstances which has nothing to do with how two middle aged, well connected, massively wealthy people choose to live their lives today.

Sure

I've had a none too subtle attack against me on this thread. On numerous threads, actually, I've been outright attacked and had an attempted doxing. I've seen it happen to many posters who have stuck up for the RF in the face of the absolute onslaught of vileness that emanated from certain Sussex supporters and so called republicans. IME of being a regular poster on this board for around 2 years, most of the unpleasantness comes from the side of Sussex supporters. If people don't want to post anymore, that's entirely on them. If they had an argument worth making, they would have stayed and made it. Most of them start bandying about words like "hate" looking for a fight. If they start a fire and then get burned, that's their own fault. They get replaced by new names who start the whole thing off again, putting out the same old information that has been gone over numerous times already, and rolling out the whatabouteries and the thought ending cliches. They then complain when a well informed counter argument is made that they are the victim of unfairness. They are not. They are the victim of their own bad arguments.

How do you know the racial make up of the Sussex Squad?

If they had moved on, Harry would not be pursuing American awards despite pissing off Americans. Meghan would be enrolled in a reputable online business school learning how to start a business.

To me, they are the ones stuck in the past.

I neither love nor hate H&M but I am sorry that the past is always resurrected and used against them.

Harry, IMO, made a huge error of judgement in openly criticising the RF and by not taking responsibility for some of his past behaviours but he has, I believe, owned up to not liking the person he was when the racist comments/fancy dress etc occurred.

Meghan, again IMO, is proving to be a not very likeable person but to constantly resurrect her comments from the OW interview does seem a little mean as she seems to be wanting to move forward.

I hope they're still happily married and have a long-term future together as they seem to have burnt their boats with both families but there are many couples who have gone NC with their families but manage very well striking out on their own so I wish them luck (just lay off the RF!)

Meghan, again IMO, is proving to be a not very likeable person but to constantly resurrect her comments from the OW interview does seem a little mean as she seems to be wanting to move forward.

These words are not "resurrected" in a vacuum. They are brought up every time one of them says or publishes something new that contradicts their past accounts.

I believe, owned up to not liking the person he was when the racist comments/fancy dress etc occurred.

The person he was is a racist. Those things didn't occur to him as if he was a passive victim. He chose that path. He grew up in the 1990s and went to a multi cultural school and entered a multi cultural profession working in multi cultural environments. His parents were both ahead of their times in their multi cultural outlook. And even if he was exposed to some racist behaviour by his peers, it was his choice as an intelligent man (according to his wife) - there was certainly no need for him to feel threatened or to punch down as he did, he was already at the top of society's tree. If the vast majority of people from his generation, who didn't have a 1000th of his advantages, were able to live their life without committing racist acts, what's his excuse?

I looked up articles when I first heard of them. They said that were mostly non white.

"a little mean"?

She accused a member of the Head of State's family of racism. Without naming them. While the BLM movement was at its height. (And before anyone gets semantic and argues no she didn't, she later accepted an award for standing up to racismin the RF.)

That alone has ongoing repercussions for UK-US relations.

But because they want to move forward, we're not supposed to hold this against them?

Oh, and if their idea of moving forward did seem to involve laying off the RF we'd all be relieved.