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West Wing Isaac and Ishmael

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Wwfan · 30/01/2026 12:03

I was very late to the WW band wagon having first watched it in about 2017. I’m watching it through for the third time, and I’ve noticed I can’t get the S3 “special episode” via C4 (UK) - Isaac and Ishmael. I believe it was written just after 9/11.

I emailed C4 as I know sometimes the “specials” get put out of synch so I wanted to know where I would find it. They replied with it won’t be streamed as there are “issues” with it. I asked if they meant tech issues and they replied with they had no more comment to make.

Does anyone know what these issues are (viewings #1 and 2 for me were post partum so much is a blur) and where I can watch it in the UK preferably for free?

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herecomesthegeneral · 30/01/2026 16:07

I can find it on Sky by searching the West Wing. It does come up as a standalone episode rather than within the overarching West Wing listing though.

Oblivionnnnn · 30/01/2026 16:11

If I remember rightly it’s related to some of the content, there’s a line about ‘they hate us because of our freedoms’ which I’m not sure would be written now. It was written and filmed in the two weeks post-9/11 and feelings were running very high.

If it helps, it’s a cringy awful episode in an otherwise flawless series. Sorkin’s tendency towards schmaltz really lends itself to this stuff, but it aches the teeth a bit these days.

LottieMary · 30/01/2026 16:55

It’s fairly dire (and was then), terrorist lockdown, lots of discussion of what causes it but orb also has issues on both Islam and Israel atm tbf.
it doesn’t have anything at all in to do with the rest of the show so you’re not missing anything, it’s 100% standalone

Rockfordpeach · 30/01/2026 16:59

It really is a poor episode, ive always skipped it when rewatching TWW

Cheepcheepcheep · 30/01/2026 17:00

I assumed this was a thread to slag it off 🤣

Agree with everyone else, if you can’t track it down you’re not missing much. And I say that as a huge fan who’s been in a perennial WW rewatch loop for nearly a decade…

Sakura7 · 30/01/2026 18:37

I honestly wouldn't bother OP, as the other have said it's really not good.

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