Andrew Tate: The Man Who Groomed The World? (iPlayer)

[GeneJeanie]

I just despair, I really do.

Andrew Tate, Andrew Tate: The Man Who Groomed the World?: www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m001q1n6

Fascinating and overdue to see
a) a man take this on
b) realise how much of a beta male loser TAte is, not just abusing women but recruiting male followers for his weirdo cult leader.

Miles Sonkin aka "Iggy semelweiss"

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/boxing/andrew-tates-alleged-secret-ringleader-30833137

Incidentally Tate seems to have had plastic surgery on his chin. That clip of him in 2016 shows him with a weak lower jaw

He's an awful man.

I thought the programme made him out to be a bigger deal than he actually is. But he really does encapsulate “Loser”.

I don't quite fully get how the followers of T8 overlap, if they do at all, with incels.

As I understand it Tate is a pickup artist, who use the techniques used by grooming gangs to groom young women and girls.

That ginger guy at the end who was an avid Tate fan, and the look on his face when it was suggested to him that he'd been groomed as thoroughly as any of the girls he was hoping to enslave, was priceless.

But he seemed like an incel. Those are not of the same background or are they? both being terrified of women older than 20 being a given

That's a good question. I guess both Tate's followers and incels will share in common lots of life experiences and characteristics. Neither group will be successful in having normal, healthy relationships with women?

The Common Sense Skeptic series on Youtube over Tate is actually a lot more illuminating.

The overlap is the misogyny.