agree with tiredemma and theclosetpagan about the eldest child. i sat open mouthed, and went to bed still reeling from what i had seen. she was so violent to the other children. it was absolutely appalling. Supernanny's techniques were fine, but surely it took more than that to control that child. Good lord. If I had seen that programme before becoming a parent, it might have put me off for life. Why on earth was that child so aggressive? Her mum seemed sweet to me.