Dr Who and the gay community

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The series finale (have told dh it is not the "last one" it is the "series finale"!!) is going to be screened at Pride!!

Cos good old Russ is gay I suppose. And he has written lots of positive gay stuff into Dr Who and Torchwood.

Definitely. I had a thing for Aiden Gill for years after Queer As Folk was on.

As for the gay thing I agree that it is as simple as DT and JB being as fit as butcher's dogs.

And JB is a well known figure and very out.

JB is hosting something at Pride so the powers that be thought it was appropriate.
Has anyone seen JB on Weakest link? Anne asks him if Capt Jack likes men or women. He's says anything with a postcode!!ROFL!

He did try to pick up a man, a woman AND an alien in "Utopia"!

'Stop it!'

DH and I ROFL when the Dr kept saying that every time Jack so much as looked at anyone! It's become a bit of a family catchphrase now - but has to be said in exactly the right tone, which is really hard to demonstrate when typing...

I loved those bits

Its going to be very handy when DD starts learning about such things - if she asks what gay is, i can just say "like Capt Jack" and she will be happy!

dd1 told my xh about John Barrowman marrying his boyfriend as it was in the paper!

MrsWho, doesn't he not like it being called 'marriage'? I seem to recall from an interview he did that he was quite firm about that. Not sure what his reasons are, but I do remember it being an issue.

No idea

lol.. ah, it's me being slightly obssessive about anything remotely Dr Who related and storing up random information,

my only there is that pride is now fee paying (wasn't in the good old days)

somehow that makes me a bit . dunno WHY.

You have to pay to get into Pride?!

he doesn't like it to be called marriage I assume because gay people are not technically allowed to marry now, and have not been at any point in history. Consequently, although they have MORE rights with a civil partnership, those rights are still very weak compared to marriage.

He is being excluded from a lot of the legal perks that people in woman-man relationships can pretty much take for granted. I am guessing that that is why he is rejecting the word? Can utterly understand the viewpoint, the ongoing discrimination against same-gender partners in the bloody 21st century makes me utterly incandescent.

yes was a big scandal back in about 1997 when i was into these things...

Blimey, Filly I didn;t know that (not having been to a gay rpride festival or indeed any festival for several years).

Dr Who is camp - always has been imo (Jon Pertwee, Colin Baker etc)

It must cost a bucket load to put on, so if there isn't funding, then I'm assuming the money has to come from somewhere?

of course its fkn camp! aside from anything else, you have a flamboyant man travelling through time and space and not settling down with any one woman (I know thats changed now he has emotions, but still)

the newsgroup is hilarious on this subject. people Do Not like dr who being even tinged with gayness.

oh beansprout, can of worms, can of worms

ok basic problem is one of access. it used to be a free community festival. No you didn't have every band under the sun playing but otoh, teenagers, people on very fixed incomes, who arguably NEEDED this sort of thing since they found it harder to go to clubs and spend money there, could come and participate and it was very inclusive.

and now it costs rather a lot and that caused discord and upset.

fillyjonk, yes I presumed those may well be among his reasons, I know a few gay men who don't call it 'marriage' for a number of reasons, actually.

I remember going to a pride event in Manchester, and I can't remember anything about having to pay - but it was quite a time ago now, and tbh, I don't actually remember an awful lot about it

no its just london, sue that you have to pay