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Friday 4:10pm s4 e1

Ihate, it should be on demand for ITV. its on tomorrow morning at 10:30 am. Unseen moments at 4:10pm on Itv2.

Next series starts on Lifetime on 22nd April. The series after that is being filmed now.

The ITV2 shows are so heavily edited. Nonetheless, I think Teresa is a hateful person. I would struggle to believe a word she says.

And I loathe her husband. In the Napa episode, where he was so obviously on the phone to another woman, he referred to her as a cunt. Nice.

I don't think Melissa was cruel to her nieces at all, and I don't think she wants Joe to hurt like he does.

I do think Teresa is bitter, and cant understand why her brother is happy if she isn't (and she clearly isn't). The whole thing in Napa was sad. It was edited in the ITV2 version, but after she interupts Joe on the telephone, she pulls him into the vineyard and they have sex, which is just so sad :(. Sge must have known he was on the phone with another woman.

Did you miss all the nasty comments about Teresa's daughters from Melissa, they were NASTY.

What did she say?

I think the person that came off the best was Chris.

I still feel that the strippergate was set up to make T look bad. I think she was nervous when the bald man turned up at the show a she then knew that she'd been set up and he was going to say something. Hence her asking M to go to the loo with her.

I am not T's biggest fan, that's just my gut feeling from watching the show.

I do think Joe is cheating on her and will cheat with anyone who will let him and he's def a shady business man.

I also feel that Melissa takes the opportunity to make T look bad. She knows that T is bit thick and quick to react and takes advantage of that. Also plays on the fact that her husband adores her and knows he's punching above his weight so to speak.

What she said about moving to get her children away from T's children was incredibly hurtful. The children seem to play nicely together so who's to say that in 10 years time that they will hate each other just because the parents do?

Caroline has been a big shit stirrer and bully in this season. she bully's her children and she's made issues out of non issues. I don't think T deliberately left Kathy out of the toast in any malicious way, she was saying thank you to those that had invited her, happy birthday to Caroline and how she was pleased her and Melissa and Joe had made good progress with their relationship.

Now to be really mean I thought Lauren looked awful, she was far too orange, and gone down the too much make up, too short/small dress and heels she couldn't walk in, just because she'd lost 35lb.

But Teresa knew something was going to go down and knew who the target was. If she really loved her sister in law she should have said something.

It doesn't take a bloody genius to work out what was going to happen.

Kim D is a nasty piece of work. Her smirk makes me want to throw things.

I think she new the salon/meeting was a set up but perhaps thought that it was to get her to go and tell her brother, she didn't and kept leaving the room when he came in and told him to stop talking about her family and perhaps in her mind she thought that was it?

She then didn't get chance to speak to Melissa, or stupidly thought she didn't need to say anything to her, and then the man appeared at the fashion show. Perhaps I'm naïve but that its my feeling, and as I say I am not teresas biggest fan, I actually am not keen on her at all and haven't been keen on any of the characters this season. BH and NY and Atlanta are my faves but NJ is as addictive to watch as the others

Well I don't like T, but I can't help feeling sorry for her too. Juicy Joe is her main problem though.

Tbh no one came out of the reunion well.

As for 'strippergate' -Joe Gorga was completely right when he said that "even if it was true, so what?"

...all those husbands know quite a lot about strip joints though

"even if it was true, so what?" I totally agree with this, but then why not just admit it and shut everyone up. Its the denial that makes it worse.

Thats what Joe said, but in the episode with the set-uo, Melissa said that if she had been a stripper Joe would never have married her.

I think it's hilarious that the secret stripper in the family was Joe Gorga.

I think Teresa was complicit in setting Melissa up. Despite what was said upthread, it was stated by Kim D and reiterated by Andy Cohen that Teresa knew about the set up.

I didn't hear Melissa say anything about the Guidice girls. I don't know why her and Joe moving is hurtful. Probably practical to get some distance between them.

My poor brain is still trying to process the concept of Joe Gorga in an elephant thong. I may need therapy!

A new series, "Manzo'd with Children" has been announced. Might explain the big changes for s6.

It was hurtful because she said she was moving because she didn't want her children to go to school with Teresa's children.

Is it a bit odd that Theresa has decided to change how her surname is pronounced? In the bookshop footage they showed today, she pronounced it Joo-d-ice, and then corrected herself to Joo-dee-kay.

And she was really pissed off that the bookshop didn't sell her cook book, even though it's on the best seller list.

I am not too keen on the Manzo's so I will give that show a miss.

I would be interested in watching Chris as he seems a decent person. Maybe he will show up in RHNJ when Dina comes back and they will make up.

Melissa and Joe need to realise that they are his parents daughter and grandchildren they are saying these things unpleasant things about, or sitting there when others are saying it and not pulling them up on it.

It is really sad that Joe hasn't seen his parents or nieces in a year and his children have missed out too.

Nobody pulled up the others for all the nasty comments about the intelligence levels of Joe and Teresa and all the other horrible things that were said about them.

I am not keen on Teresa and Joe at all, I just don't like lynch mobs.

The comment about not wanting the dc to go to school together didn't seem like a big deal to me. I've got 22 first cousins and we all lived nearby. The dc potential for the dc to be in the same class is awful. Imagine how Momzilla that could get! Caused friction in my family and we all get along.

Milania and Antonia have out of school activities together. Teresa and Melissa have both tweeted pics. If I was Teresa's sil I'd move out of state. It wasn't just Melissa's decision to move (she'll get the blame).

The surname pronunciation came up last year. I think they changed how they say it to make it fit with the Italian way of saying that name. It's their name and they can say it how they like. Was she really expecting the bookstore to order her book in? I think she must have been kidding.

I don't like Dina.

I'd watch the Manzo thing.

I don't think it was a lynch mob. Teresa has fallen out with everyone. She was vicious herself, none of them came of particularly well.

Just watching the one with the men in and Kim d. I kind of feel sorry for Teresa. It's like a hate mob. I think they all have agendas.

Yeah, I watched it too. Theresa is her own worst enemy but the others don't have to go after her so viciously. The father's day bit with Juicy was sad. Their daughter's know much more than their parent's realise.

One of the girls said a comment along the lines of, "you don't care about Mummy after all" Theresa seems to spend her life putting on a brave face. I think she's tough as old boots, but inside she's got to be terrified/ upset/ hurting.

I think she's currently awaiting sentencing for fraud, along with her husband. Originally he was the only one up on charges wasn't he? Those poor kids....