Okay, I admit it, I should have done it weeks ago. Please talk to me about school trousers for dd1 - stupid shop sizing!!!!!

[TooTicky]

Dd1 (11) needs school trousers. Her waist, according to M&S size guide, is that of a 16yo. But she is not fat at all. Her legs are shortish.
Am hoping to buy online but still get something that fits. Are M&S sizes realistic ?
Help!!

Oh, and she'd like a zip pocket...

Ach, but the shops are useless and never actually have things in stock

indeed at husky
But in any case, you always hear about about Americans being obese, so you'd think their sizing would reflect this.

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Not bought M&S trousers for girls but have found from trying on that DD (7) tends to wear a size 7 skirt well pulled in.

Just got her a tracksuit from there in size 7-8 top and size 6 bottoms which fits well

She is very skinny and average-ish height, certainly not the tallest. Put it this way, she can wear pass-on jeans from her best buddy who is 2 mo older than her (and slightly taller and stockier - not much tho)

Any help?

You need to go and try on. Call and order what you need first - you don't have to buy it.

Hmm, it's all so generalisewd, that's the problem. There should be more adjustable waists and variety of leg lengths.
Cod, some of the next ones seem a funny shape. Also, they're not good on pockets, which dd1 NEEDS.
I fear it is the hell that is M&S hell in Bath, Salisbury, Bristol or Swindon
Which is the best stocked?