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Les Parisiennes des Mamansnet: JesusFlo Superstar in a Back Lit Kaftan (Toyboy Not Included)

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botemp · 21/02/2023 16:16

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timeisnotaline · 25/04/2023 22:18

I didn’t read that article as I didn’t think it would resonate with me 😁

CrkdLttrCrkdLttr · 26/04/2023 10:31

Can’t believe it’s newspapers that have dragged me out of intermittent lurkdom on this thread … 😄But someone, @EffortlessDesmond ? is paying £35 for their Times sub, when mine is £26. I could not stay silent.

Strange confluence: I was once, in the late 80s, introduced to Susie Boyt at a funeral (calm event, awful cause) - and then unrelatedly, some time later, her column became one of the strongest reasons for my adoration of the Weekend FT. I used to race to the newsagent on Saturday mornings, because they only ever stocked about half a dozen copies. I could never quite get my head around all the vituperative comments on ludicrous luxury items - I liked being informed, even during scratching down the back of the sofa for change periods. I miss the beautiful paper version now I have an online subscription.

My NYT sub rolls the digital news, cookery and games into one package for what seems like pennies compared to The Times. Reluctant to give up the latter as I share that sub with family. I read but don’t subscribe to The Guardian - they don’t deserve it. And I keep subscribing to and then cancelling various French news sites - just don’t have the time.

I am so envious of those of you within easy reach of worthwhile sample sales …

botemp · 26/04/2023 12:11

Ha, maybe I should rebrand this thread to the How To Spend It thread if newspapers is what gets the lurkers out but it might also get the pitchforks out 🤔

I always thought my fondness for the FT was nostalgia. Back when hotels and airlines offered newspapers it was often a choice of FT and USA Today in large parts of the world and I basically just went for FT on account of colour. And I too enjoyed the ludicrous luxury items with price tags as at that time most of luxury retail was of the, 'if you have to ask, you can't afford it' bollocks.

I've gotten annoyed with NYT, it's too concerned with twitter sometimes and internal politics. I used to love the NYT cooking section but it's gone downhill (although I don't bake much anymore, that probably has been a factor too).

I did get a little depressed reading this FT article on counterfeit culture this morning. ( Paywall bypass, don't click the cookies thing. ) I knew it was popular with Gen Z, I just didn't know it was that mainstream.

Thebe Magugu managed to cheer me up though, I hope V&A will do more of this type of show coverage.

Discard Theory | Thebe Magugu | Fashion in Motion | V&A

Fashion in Motion is a series of live fashion shows at the V&A featuring leading fashion designers from across the world. The first African designer to recei...

https://youtu.be/Slybb7yRcGU

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botemp · 26/04/2023 12:17

Meant to add, if anyone knows a good newspaper cookery section, I'd like to know about them. I liked the Guardian and NYT but feel both have gone downhill, very niche and obscure hires that seem to be for optics which I wouldn't care about if the recipes were actually good and the regulars seem to be phoning it in. I know there's a whole internet of recipes but tik tok and YouTube are doing terrible things to food. I frequent Italian newspapers for recipes, but, predictably it's all Italian (often obscure regional dishes specific to one town, I do enjoy that). I used to get some amazing recipes out of French Elle, I might need to revisit that...

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4plusthehound · 26/04/2023 14:43

@botemp Thebe clothes are truly stunning.

i am with you about the recipes - I use
https://www.giallozafferano.it › rice...

there is an english translation.

I also use https://everydayfrenchchef.com/
in my opinion she is the you of cooking!

Ricette GialloZafferano - Giallozafferano.it

Vuoi cucinare? Scopri consigli, ingredienti, tempi e modalità di preparazione delle nostre gustosissime ricette.

https://www.giallozafferano.it/ricette-cat/

Redandblue11 · 26/04/2023 17:56

Thebe has a real ability to touch and be genuine. What a gem.
The suit he is wearing is from a series I saw at the V&A exhibition of African fashion. It is not the exact same, I had to go back and make sure. So I assume it is from a series? Or has been modified?

Les Parisiennes des Mamansnet: JesusFlo Superstar in a Back Lit Kaftan (Toyboy Not Included)
mm47 · 26/04/2023 18:39

https://www.ft.com/content/e49c2590-9fe5-41e0-b3fc-5640aa867ace?shareType=nongift

how workwear / twill is tops (no shit Sherlock) haven’t finished the article yet but so excited to see architects and artists love twill (at least I can try to dress like an artist 😉 even if all I can make is a mess! 🤡)

Twill of the people: the workwear staple that never gets old

Designers share their fascination with the labourer’s favourite fabric

https://www.ft.com/content/e49c2590-9fe5-41e0-b3fc-5640aa867ace?shareType=nongift

mm47 · 26/04/2023 19:28

Well remembered red! Love Thebe’s clothes especially the louche denim outfit printed on what looks like a white silk shirt sleeve dress.
Unfortunately have nothing to offer for recipe websites. I love cookery hacks Eg either make some bone broth or heat up a tin or two of Campbell’s consommé and then add a good glug of chilli vodka - it is delicious…

microbius · 26/04/2023 19:42

In our house we cook a lot from Anna Jones' books. We have all three of them; she's is really excellent

MmePoppySeedDefage · 26/04/2023 21:12

I have a lot of cookery books, and so have a subscription to Eat Your Books, and one to an organic box scheme.

Eat Your Books offers a searchable index to cookery books, listinga recipe's ingredients and the type of recipe.

So... When I get something like a kohlrabi in my veg box, I do a search amongst my books in EYB for recipes involving that, and that way use my books and my ingredients.

I do like Yotam Ottolenghi recipes especially and can do a search by those specifically.

You can mark recipes that you've cooked, and leave comments- other people's comments and experiences can be useful as dear old Yotam sometimes gives weird timings.

Over the years it's been so used and I've made excellent use of my books and have re-made things I'd forgotten about.

timeisnotaline · 26/04/2023 22:25

I love twill, I love that ‘grain line’ texture it has and its soft slightly weighty drape.
I think I need an eatyourbooks subscription in my future as someone with a lot of cookbooks. Good food.com.au is very general but has lots of very good cooks featured- many Aussie of course but not all. Karen martini, Adam liaw spring to mind.

4plusthehound · 26/04/2023 22:35

timeisnotaline · 26/04/2023 22:25

I love twill, I love that ‘grain line’ texture it has and its soft slightly weighty drape.
I think I need an eatyourbooks subscription in my future as someone with a lot of cookbooks. Good food.com.au is very general but has lots of very good cooks featured- many Aussie of course but not all. Karen martini, Adam liaw spring to mind.

Is that a drink for Karens of a person/

If it is a martini invernted for Karens SIGN ME UP!!

i am a Karen by age if not by nature.

Redandblue11 · 27/04/2023 08:26

Eatyourbooks sounds great poppy, I am not that organised and also have an organic box delivery so tend to get the veg with a small recipe/how to prepare tips, I tend to just wing it and roughly see how it is prepared and incorporate it in whatever I am making , sides, sauces, pies, etc.
Sometimes I wish I was more organised when cooking, I don’t follow recipes or end up looking roughly what the recipe is like and doing my own version with what I have.

botemp · 27/04/2023 11:21

I've never seen anyone not named Karen voluntarily identifying as a Karen, you might want to read up on the meaning of it, hound, the original and current going definition.

Anna Jones is very much not my thing. I know how to cook, really well actually, conceited as that may sound. I like recipes that introduce something new and different (cuisine or ingredient) or figure out what I ate somewhere and recreate it, so definitely the Ottolenghi and similar corner. Most food writing atm is too much just putting together some high quality ingredients and that really doesn't require a recipe or it's plant based nonsense which is often not a meal or, rather, a really poor one nutritionally speaking (I love a carb but it can't be 99% carbs and call itself a meal).

Yes, I should have mentioned that the Aussies are a rare exception in still knowing to excite me with cooking, occasionally they pop up on the Australian bit of the Guardian but being opposite seasons can be annoying. The Delicious Australia site seems to be blocked outside of AU though Sad (or maybe Australia really doesn't exist 😱). Are there any newspapers online worth looking at time?

I also have a huge catalogue of cookbooks but I've bought less and less over the years (everyone seems to make a baking book, a vegetarian plant based book, and then either a time or money constrained version). And all the OG food bloggers I once liked seem to focus on books as above and only occasionally pop up to promote those books with meh recipes.

I've looked at eatyourbooks previously but I've got an old school colour coded post it bookmarks system so it just seemed an unnecessary expense but the community aspect might be worthwhile, I shall consider it. I always really liked the newspaper cookery sections as it moved along with the seasons though.

I really enjoyed the twill article mm47, the closing line really nailed my conundrums about workwear as high fashion. I have some twill that needs sewing into something, I should probably get on it.

I'm a bit worried about Thebe Magugu though, I worry he'll forever be a critical darling and struggling to financially build the brand out. When I ordered some of his items from his earlier collections (might have been the one that won the LVMH prize) I was rather disappointed in the fabrics, I should probably revisit, no one stocks it here. His last show was a presentation rather than show. I adored this look though.

Les Parisiennes des Mamansnet: JesusFlo Superstar in a Back Lit Kaftan (Toyboy Not Included)
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botemp · 27/04/2023 11:48

So busy responding that I completely forgot to ask what I came here for. Did anyone buy anything from the previous Cos Atelier collection? Wondering if the quality is higher or that it's just marketing (shops don't seem to stock it? I think?) as the baseline of Cos quality isn't that great anymore, but the thing that's annoyed me most as of recent is the lack of depth in the colour dyes. It looks really budget somehow, it might be an environmental choice though.

Anyhow, I like the very 90s minimalism look of a lot in the new Cos Atelier collection but not sure whether it's worth the hassle of ordering.

COS Atelier

Explore the COS ATELIER collection. Our limited capsule is founded on the principles of luxury and exceptional design. Find womenswear pieces to cherish now and forever.

https://www.cos.com/en_eur/women/cos-atelier.html#shop

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4plusthehound · 27/04/2023 13:40

@botemp I know what you mean re Karen.

It attacks my age group and, I am sad to report, once or twice I have second guessed myself due to the potiential of the slur in a given situation.

It did strike me that a Karen martini could be a witty reclaim - I may try it with some pals - eventhough martinis floor me generally!

timeisnotaline · 27/04/2023 13:44

Delicious blocked?? Can you access https://www.gourmettraveller.com.au/ bo? I have had a subscription forever except when living in london of course- I’d go to selfridges sometimes and see if they had one sometimes. I think the goodfood link I shared would have lots of newspaper column recipes, I think it’s in the same stable as the age paper, my state’s main newspaper.

Gourmet Traveller - Recipes, Dining Out, Travel & Lifestyle

Gourmet Traveller is your trusted source and authority for the best in food, wine and travel.

https://www.gourmettraveller.com.au/

botemp · 27/04/2023 14:03

Ah thank you, time, Gourmet Traveller has me at micro herbs in a Malaysian Nasi Ulam. I'm going to have to see if my local international bookseller stocks them, it would be nice to have a good food magazine again. But the website looks very promising too.

Did good food au change, I remember it being part of a television channel (I want to say channel 9?) and now it seems to be the Sydney Herald? Or am I mixing up two unrelated websites...

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MmePoppySeedDefage · 27/04/2023 14:14

If anyone's local library offers Libby and/or Press Reader there are lots of food magazines available on those platforms.

Via Libby, I regularly access Cooks Illustrated, an American magazine that takes food very seriously indeed. They work a basic recipe to what they see as perfection and explain what they do and why, so that's interesting and there are some good and unusual recipes.

botemp · 27/04/2023 17:00

Thanks Poppy, I had a quick look in my Scribd subscription (which is a sort of Netflix for ebooks, audiobooks, podcasts and magazines) and I have Cooks Illustrated on there and Gourmet Traveller, hadn't thought to check it for the latter but that saves me a trip to the newsagent and it goes back a couple of years so that should solve the topsy turvy season thing, already bookmarked a few things.

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Redandblue11 · 27/04/2023 17:41

I was actually looking and pondering about cos atelier Bo I have not ordered anything (yet).

timeisnotaline · 27/04/2023 23:19

’nine’ the company merged with fairfax, a local major media company and together they own nine news, the age and Sydney morning herald and goodfood as well as the financial review (our business paper, my only newspaper subscription and I read it daily digitally anyway) Older people would still refer to them as fairfax papers.

timeisnotaline · 27/04/2023 23:21

I remember cooks illustrated! Fascinating articles, weird owner. I have a silky chocolate dessert that bakes in a water bath from there that is the soul of death by chocolate.

botemp · 28/04/2023 07:56

My mother always had Epicurious and Bon Appetit magazines when we lived near enough to the US to get all their printed media. I think they merged as one now, they used to have good recipes until they decided to cater to an internet audience and it all became elevated junkfood and kombucha experiments. Then it blew up in their faces as the work culture was toxic and it got very internet messy.

Who is the weird owner of Cook's Illustrated, time?

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