help me find a casual shoe for ds1

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not a trainer, not a black school shoe. size 4 1/2.and not £50!

i'm not ure they exisit.

Something like this? or is it still a bit too trainer-like? (and not available in half sizes).

that's not bad actually!

Hurray. Or this? (not sure about the sizing - whether this is a small 4.5 or adult)

i think they are little sizes. it goes on to european ones doesn't it. he's a size 4/37.

Boden?

More boots? Or did you specifically want shoes?

mmmm not keen. and would like to somewhere i can take him to try on. he has such narrow long feet , lts of things don't fit.

he's only 7

and can only get ugly school shoes or crap trainers.

something to wear with jeans over the summer hols.

Crocs? Sorry - poor him (and you) - must be a real pain.

i don't think soooooo!!!!

Sorry. I think I'm out of ideas though.

anyone else?

Geox or skechers ?

geox are really expensive and also very wide fitting. haven't looked at skechers...