So if MAC Chili isn't orange enough where should I go next?

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Nice lipstick but it comes up rather too purple on me. Was considering So Chaud? I want an orange red (not an orange) and it certainly doesn't need to be MAC.

So chaud is lovely my favourite

Rimmel moisture renew lipstick in the shade 'in love with ginger'

So Chaud looks scarily orange, but then I think maybe I need that as Chili really doesn't look orange at all on me - although it does on everyone else online!

If I were in the market for a red lipstick I would be buying one from Besame.

It always looks red on me

I’ve got this one. Forbidden sunrise

Oops sorry just seen you don’t want actual orange

I love Mac Saigon summer. I wear it all the time.

Ooh I like that Ken

Lady danger is nice.

I do have a Besame lipstick in Red Hot Red, which again turns out to be not orange enough for me. Lovely though. Was considering the Carmine. The supplier I got that from no longer stocks the brand, is there anywhere UK based who has them?

NARS Laguna is rather orange

I don't know sorry but they do offer international shipping. Maybe Cult Beauty worth a try?

Bingo, Cult Beauty is my go-to for less common brands: www.cultbeauty.co.uk/besame-cosmetics

What about something like this? I'm not brave enough to try it although I use the nude one

Orange reds are my favourites. I have and love all of the below.

MAC Lady Danger
Nars Heatwave
Nars Lana
Guerlain Rouge G Genna
Tom Ford Flame
Tom Ford Cristiano
Hourglass Lover

Liquid

MAC Fashion Legacy
Hourglass Raven
Nars Light my Fire

Mac barbecue
Charlotte tilbury Tell Laura are nice orange reds.

Thankyou, lots of ideas, will look through them all.

Bobbi Brown Orange. Which is orangey red, not orange, but very wearable.
RMS Rapture if you want brick orange in a natural format.