what eyeliner can you buy that actually STAYS on the waterline for more than 5 minutes?

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you know the lower lash line just inside the lower eye lid (iykwim) does such a thing exist?

i have tried LOADS

help!

never ever ever found one. Gosh's liquid ones last about half an hour on me ( i don't even think they do them any more..the ones that are meant to be long lasting and can use for nail and body art as well as eyes)... No7 do a lovely dark blue one (sea or ocean is the name) that lasts about an hour..i am blinky and watery though!

I think eyeliners budge from there by definition, sadly.

HOWEVER. I find that Avon Glimmersticks eyeliners stay on my lash line all day. Only a few quid so maybe worth a shot to see if they last longer than others you've tried?

I used to love the Dior one but the last one I got was rubbish - actually wrote and complained!

I'm using the Claris one at the moment which seems ok so far (only used it since yesterday)

I've had some good results with a cheapo Mua from Superdrug

mac eyeliners are good, most will drift away eventualy

Maybelline eye studio gel liner, I swear by it-lasts pretty much all day and applies beautifully

ANother one here who used to use Dior, but now using Clarins.

Maybelline studio gel was one of the worst I tried! but i am watery and a bit oily. even so..it should do what it says, and stay put?! it gave me the worst panda eyes, and that was even if only on top eyeline

No 7 liquid liners. I have the dark blue one mentioned above and a plummy one, both last most of the day.

The Jemma Kid ones are good.

Another vote for Avon. Their gel eyeliner stick is really hard to budge...

I reckon any eyeliner will stay, if you set it with some powder.

Draw the line, then dab a clean eye shadow brush in some loose translucent powder (or baby powder), press against drawn line and presto! A dark eye that will stay put...

You can draw another light line on top, for extra staying power/ filling gaps.

benefit bad gal felt pen or barry m blink felt pen

oh dear thats basically a no then :o

i have quite watery eyes as well, i wear contact lenses so dont think that helps

urban decay 24hr glide on eyeliner pencils are truly amazing, well I think they are, they seem to last all day long on me, they also do some amazing colours.

avon/ jemma kid/ urban decay 24/benefit/barry m//all horrific and last five minutes on me. But i would think they would be ok on someone not watery and oily. I'm just sick of always wasting money. I just can't wear it on lower lashes and it doesn't last long on upper.

I forgot, smashbox do a waterproof range of eye pencils that are meant to be very good.