Can anyone help me find girls' school shoes?

[FredWorms]

They all seem to be open-front, Mary-Jane style. I was hoping for something a bit more chunky?

She's 11, going up to secondary school.

My DD started high school this week, she went for brogues.

what size is she?

lace-ups?

brogues? clarks also have similar

Clarkes have plain black lace ups. Plain and with brogue-y punching. My dd has worn them for the past 4 years. They are expensive but they last well, are really comfortable and pass the peer group approval test. Look in the Woman's section.