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Original poster

you heard it here first, slightly O/T , - SURI CRUISE

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misscutandstick · 09/03/2009 07:45

Please dont flame, this is a light hearted, mild curiosity, wonder-what-you-thought kinda thread.

Suri Cruise, i have for some time thought that this child has SN. Actually from the very first pics i saw (dont get me wrong, im not that interested, im not stalking the girl ) i thought there was something 'lurking' beneath.

Just seen a 30sec news footage of her and I still think this is the case, why? She has slightly dismorphic features: wide set eyes (with that 'distant' look), flat nasal bridge, wide off-centred mouth. "So what?" hear you ask, but have you seen both parents? neither of which display these features. She also exhibits behaviours: awkward 'stance', odd hand movements, and she was seen to be holding her ears - again you say, "well the media was in frenzy it may have been loud", and i answer with: if you notice, she did not hold her ears until AFTER the cameras started flashing, the noise levels would have been high BEFORE that point, and she only hid her face at that time. Presumably as shes only 3, large groups may unnerve her. But I have to question, have the 'paps' have only just started this procedure? No, its been like this since birth, surely she would have grown used to it by now, it seems that every other celeb child has overcome this treatment

No, mark my words, you heard it hear first, theres something amiss, and when it comes to light, i will hear a chorus of "oooh she was right you know"...

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Frasersmum123 · 09/03/2009 08:36

Well from what I heard, there are many 'conditions' that Scientology, the 'religion' her parents are members of, dont believe exist, so it will be very strange if there is anything admitted.

mrsturnip · 09/03/2009 08:41

Well I was about to say noooooo then realised I'd never seen a video of her, so have a very brief look on YouTube. Found one and she was headbanging the floor of a shop! (but hey autistic ds1 AND NT (now) ds3 have done that!)

Oh it feels very wrong to speculate - she's a real person with real parents who love her (not having a go, just saying I feel wrong doing it as I do with any child iykiwm) I do think she's an absolute sweetie pie and haven't noticed anything dysmorphic about her. Hope they don't have to take a trip down that road. It's not an easy one. Although have to say 7 years post diagnosis I'm actually pleased we ended up where we are now (and 7 years ago I would have been horrified if I could have seen into our future).

FioFio · 09/03/2009 08:43

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misscutandstick · 09/03/2009 09:26

I wasnt after hurting anyones feelings, and if i thought for one minute that Suri's mum would actually read this forum, then i really wouldnt have posted. I really was just after a gossip and your thoughts on my opinions.

Though i am the first to admit if you look close enough at anything, you will find something to raise an eyebrow at. Take Wall-E, the disney character: Hes non-verbal, he doesnt see the 'bigger picture', he has unusual attachments to objects, he is not good in social situations, doesnt understand everyday items, he more than likely fits the 'triad of impairments' and therefore would be classed in some part ASD.

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mrsturnip · 09/03/2009 09:28

No watched some more and everything seems a completely normal reaction to a totally abnormal situation. What a bloody awful life being stalked every time you leave home.

I was reading in some dreadful magazine this morning and interview with an old star - she was asked what had changed and said the no of photographers. She said she'd been out for a meal and when she left the restaurant she couldn't see the way to the car because she was blinded by flashlights. I don't think we can imagine what its like being on the receiving end of it tbh.

Ds2 would love it, Ds3 would hate it and ds1 would be oblivious!

wannaBe · 09/03/2009 09:44

how horrible.

"just after a gossip"

I think it's one thing to question whether there might be an issue, iirc there has been similar speculation about Edward and Sophie Wessex' dd1 (whose name escapes me), but to sensationalize an opinion like that is just horrible imo. She is still a child, and while I'm 100% positive that her parents do not read mn, if you wouldn't speculate like that about someone who you know personally why does it suddenly become acceptable to do it about someone in the public eye?

I wouldn't want to live like that, much less bring my children up in the kind of atmosphere where they can be photographed at any point and subject to public speculation/gossip.

TinyC · 09/03/2009 09:56

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lazybones · 09/03/2009 10:33

My dd looks just like Suri, they are almost the same age, this does seem mean to me. A bit like when Jeremy Clarkson told Jamie Oliver he looked 'a bit SN'. Do we really need this? I'm taking it personally on Katie Holmes' behalf. And it doesn't matter what needs a child has, who they are is more important, public speculation is just gossip. I think she is a happy child with loving parents. If she grows up and chooses to live a public life as an adsult, feel free to gossip then.

ICANDOTHAT · 09/03/2009 10:40

Do not think she looks like she has any 'syndrome'. She's the image of her mum and dad. Check this out:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAoyrYwj7aM

Nothing unusual about her. Normal, inquisitive little girl. Misscutandstick I don't think you meant any real harm, but I think you may have awoken a few lions on MN. I agree with previous poster, that most of us would hate to have our kids discussed in this way ie 'for gossip'

hereidrawtheline · 09/03/2009 11:08

I feel sorry for Katie Holmes. It seems obvious she is a very loving mother and is under constant criticism and her daughter always being picked apart.

I know you didnt intend any harm by the OP but it just isnt nice really. None of us want our childrens looks and behaviour picked apart by strangers on the internet 'just for a gossip' celebrity or no it would hurt you.

hereidrawtheline · 09/03/2009 11:11

Anyway I think joking about whether or not a child has SN isnt funny as the reality is quite horrible. Still am not trying to flame you, just replying honestly.

2shoes · 09/03/2009 11:13

blimey are we now diagnosing children we don't even know on here. very odd thread imo

lingle · 09/03/2009 11:27

Let she who has never started a thread and then regretted it cast the first stone and all that though........

hereidrawtheline · 09/03/2009 11:46

lingle I have to agree with you on that, I know I for one have put my foot in it many times, totally unsuspectingly!

2shoes · 09/03/2009 11:50

lingle been there done that, and took the heat.

TinySocks · 09/03/2009 11:54

I am sure misscutandstick didn't mean any harm or had bad intentions at all. We are all only human!!!

To OP: no don't think I agree with you, she doesn't appear to have any dimorphic features to me.

Nabster · 09/03/2009 11:58

I am about off today but tbh I can't see anything light hearted in the OP.

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misscutandstick · 09/03/2009 12:16

Many apologies to all ive obviously offended, I'll go crawl under a rock.

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wannaBe · 09/03/2009 12:24

it's not the op - it's the thread title. Has a distinctly "read all about it, read all about it," air to it.

As I said it's one thing to wonder if there may be an issue, (although whether there is or not is obviously none of anyone's business), but the wording of the thread title was deliberately sensationalist.

2shoes · 09/03/2009 12:39

misscutandstick don't take it personally.

hereidrawtheline · 09/03/2009 12:49

misscutandstick, if its any consolation, while I wouldnt have posted what you did (just this particular OP) I have posted many things in my day and will inevitably post many more that will annoy loads of people and which I later regretted. Sometimes on reflection I thought their criticism was fair and correct and sometimes I stood by myself and thought they were wrong. You either dont think everything through properly, or you dont foresee every circumstance. Its just that joking about whether or not a child has SN isnt going to go down well here.

lingle · 09/03/2009 14:12

lazybones · 09/03/2009 16:01

I'm ok - I meant to say I didn't think you'd done it to be overtly negative, I just have a soft spot for Suri due to the resemblence!

TinyC · 09/03/2009 16:07

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hereidrawtheline · 09/03/2009 16:19

I am very partial to Suri and Katie because Katie has always carried Suri around and she was criticised for that. How could a 2 year old keep up, safely, when there are all the paps around? She would get trampled, or kidnapped, or god knows what. And Katie doesnt have a nanny do all the carrying. She does it. She always has her daughter with her. She clearly loves her to bits, every bit as much as I love my DS. Also I saw some pics ages ago of Suri crying while Katie was holding her, shielding her face trying to avoid the cameras. And I just felt so sad for them. So yeah, I have a soft spot too. But again misscutandstick, doesnt mean to flame you! Just that the poor family get picked apart enough really. I dont (think) I am really a big Tom fan but I do love Katie and Suri. I dont actually have too much of an opinion of Tom. He strikes me as arrogant and he has said as much in interviews but to be honest I dont really care if he is arrogant or not, its none of my business.

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