WTF do you have to do to get them to go to sleep?

[rickman]

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What age ?

Both would do it for sure

How old by the way?

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I take it you've done all the usual things like stories & eventually yelling IT'S BEDTIME GO TO SLEEP to no affect?

A solid catch on the bedroom door keeps 'em in.

Screaming because upset or just playing up?

Magscat, that's so true. I thought I was the only one who did that

MrsW - luckily it's not something I have to resort to very often with ds but when I do it's if he's deliberately mucking about & it just seems to let him know 'That's it. Mummy's patience has run out!' Can't complain he's really good most of the time.

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wake them up really early tomorrow as punishment
and tell them its 10am

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earlier than 7am?

you should stop feeding them processed food, organic only
no sugar in their diet
lots of spontaneous play throughout the day, black out blinds

can you afford a night nanny, I have a number for an agency thatis highly recommended

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I am having trouble getting mine to sleep and bordering on the err side of sanity

tell her i will get her under the cold shower at the beach if she doesnt go to bed//

I have watched that nanny program where she comes to the house to sort out bad kids. There was one little girl that would not stay in bed. The parents had to be strong, and each time she got out of bed, just take them back to bed and shut/lock the door and explain that as long as she stays in bed we will reopen the door. It took over an hour on the first night but over a few days that little girl was goinng to bed like an angel! But its imortant to remain consistent with the same bed time/routine. I have had to be strong with my daughter whos 19 months cos she wouldn't sleep through and woke up six times per night for a bottle. I just ignored her one day and was firm about it, and after four nights she was sleeping through. Be strong, be firm.

Clost the door,hover outside, and roar like a lion every time they dare to open it.

Works for me.

I growl at them Moondog. My dh tells me off and says it#s scarey. That's the point though isn't it?

Exactly
(My dd sometimes runs back to bed screaming. Precisely the effect I sought,heh heh.

My sister has two 'difficult' sleeper,both under 4. Without belittling the problem,dh and I were amazed at the palaver when she came to stay last week!

By the second night,she had worked out this set up; travelcot plus extra bed on the floor for the youngest,in case he didn't settle with her in a glorious king sized bed (her dh wasn't with her).The other child also had a bed on the floor in case the king sized didn't suit. This arrangement involved nearly all my spare duvets,bedding and cushions. Furthermore,she had also triend them both out in my daughter's king sized bed.......

'Just put them to bed and shut the bloody door' I said. Obviously,we then had a row.

tire them out in the day (take them for 4 mile hikes) restrict day-time naps, make them stay in their rooms even if they can't sleep. DD is an insomniac like me and can spend 1-2 hours or more babbling and role-playing with her animals in her room before she finally goes to sleep.

I feel bad because and sometimes let her out so she can have some 1-to1 time with me, but mostly she needs that 1-1.5 hours of very quiet non-interactive time just to wind down.

perhaps it might be less drama if they went to bed abit later. 8 - 8.30pm. Especially in the summer.