<wails. what have i done to deserve this? have cracked 6mo ds2's sleeping (touch wood) but now ds1 has suddenyl started waking in the night wanting to get into bed with us

[Tutter]

(see threads passim re ds2 and (gasp) cc - he has slept 6:30pm - 5:40 the last 2 nights)

but for the last 4 nights ds1 has woken crying - he hasn't done this ever, iirc. nothing has calmed him other than the offer to go into the spare room with dh (rather than in with us, next to ds2's monitor - very noisy when i have to do cc at 5:40 or whenever)

dh away tonight

i have spent all day talking about the lollipop he will get tomorrow if he's a big boy and stays in his room all night

he's already woken once and whimpered for a minute or two before going quiet again

ideas? advice?

(he'll be 3 in may, btw)

He may be feeling poorly - if it's out of character

yes i meant to say i think he may be cutting one of his final 2 molars

will get the nurofen at the ready...

How was last night? Just to sympathise. We have two DDs with a similar age gap to your DSs. DD2 is a rubbish sleeper, currently doing a bit better with tummy sleeping - partly inspired by you. (She's just under 6 mths and am postponing cc until she's eating better by day and - I hope - doesn't need night feeds.) But every time she has a better night - say only waking 3 times, DD1 is up in the middle of the night, as if to compensate. Last night, for instance, DD2 slept from 7 until 12 (hurray!) but DD1 - currently potty training and reluctant to poo on the potty was up just after we'd fallen asleep at 10.30 needing to poo, and then again later in the night. Am a rational, sceptical kind of person but it is going to start making me believe in some kind of malign infant telepathy if it carries on.

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sympathies dotty

(and at tutter being "inspirational" - will make note in diary)

ds1 didn't wake again until 5:55, but no amount of chat-though-the-monitor about lolly rewards would convince him to stay in his room quietly, alone. so i ended up on the carpet next to his bed for 45 mins