And when do they wake up again? I really need to get into a better bedtime routine with my DD. She no longer naps during the day, until 5pm! She is then not tired for hours. 5pm seems too early to put her to bed, and is pretty impractical due to the general family routine, and because she wakes often so I'm up and down frequently from bedtime onwards, meaning nothing gets done. However 11pm (her preferred sleeping time after a nice 5pm nap) is waaay too late, and when she stays awake so late she then wants to sleep until 10.30 in the morning! Pre-school starts at 9.15. It's hard to keep her awake when she's sleepy as she gets enraged, extremely upset, and it's pretty impossible to get anything done at all with a raging toddler to manage/calm! What do you do with your toddlers regarding bedtimes?