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How should we refer to parents who take their children abroad to have their genitalia removed?

106 replies

GrabbyGabby · 25/11/2022 22:28

Dear MNHQ

I just got a deletion for referring to the well evidenced fact that Susie Green, now ex CEO of Mermaids took her child to Thailand on their 16th birthday and had their male genitalia removed. I used the correct medical terminology (castration) for this procedure and used sex based pronouns (he).

Can you please explain why my post was deleted? The use of euphasims such as "top surgery" and "gender realignment surgery" are not accurate and hide the brutal truth.

Can you please let me know which elements of my post caused the deletion.

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SquirrelSoShiny · 25/11/2022 22:30

Idk why you got deleted for telling the truth but you shouldn't have been.

Icecreamandapplepie · 25/11/2022 22:31

What a crazy world now

TinFoilHatty · 25/11/2022 22:35

I think the c - ation word is on autodelete? I am going to carefully split my post, as MaryZ taught us all those years ago, and post the what I think is the offending word next. Ok here goes...

TinFoilHatty · 25/11/2022 22:35

castration

TinFoilHatty · 25/11/2022 22:36

Hmmmmmm. OK well I was wrong about that. As you were. <gets coat>

Libre2 · 25/11/2022 22:37

What should we call parents who do that?
Abusive

hennybeans · 25/11/2022 22:40

I clicked on your post thinking it was going to be about FGM and parents who take their children to countries that allow that to have it done.
Makes you think why one thing is criminal and then other thing is not.

NeverDropYourMooncup · 25/11/2022 22:41

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NewBootsAndRanty · 25/11/2022 22:41

TinFoilHatty · 25/11/2022 22:35

I think the c - ation word is on autodelete? I am going to carefully split my post, as MaryZ taught us all those years ago, and post the what I think is the offending word next. Ok here goes...

I wonder if it's only autodeleted in the Feminism section?

GrannyAchingsShepherdsHut · 25/11/2022 22:42

@tinfoilhatty is it possible the auto delete is only on the sex and gender board? I mean, someone might be posting about castrating farm animals or something, and that would be weird to auto delete.

murasaki · 25/11/2022 22:43

Will bollockectomy pass the censors? Abusive is the right term for the parent when the child is underage.

murasaki · 25/11/2022 22:44

I think orchidectomy is a medical term.

NCFT0922 · 25/11/2022 22:44

ABUSER seems to fit the profile well.

NCFT0922 · 25/11/2022 22:45

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Quite. What a world.

TinFoilHatty · 25/11/2022 22:49

Ah yes, the board/topic will be relevant, good point.

GrabbyGabby · 25/11/2022 22:50

Thanks all. I am livid about this. I recognise MN has a fine line to tread on all matters to do with gender identity. But this was a CHILD taken by their PARENT to THAILAND to have their TESTICLES REMOVED, because no surgeon in their right mind in this country would do it.

This truth should not be censored.

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shams05 · 25/11/2022 22:50

I thought you were talking about fgm and so was going to say criminal but I've no idea if cast....ion comes into the same category, you would think it would but...

shams05 · 25/11/2022 22:52

I wonder... Ones cultural belief the other is a mental beleif? Is that the right way to describe it?
But ones criminal and the other is freedom of expression? Gosh I have so many questions

Msgrieves · 25/11/2022 23:00

Ehh mumsnet is stand up in the way that here is one of the only places you can discuss these things. Shady as fuck in the fact you have to walk the fine line of placation. I would imagine they would be happy bunnies if we would all fuck off. Double edged sword for them though seeing as the main site is now a big steaming pile of twee/bitchy shite.

PinkyU · 25/11/2022 23:03

I assume it’s because you misgendered the individual you were discussing, which is against the rules.

FGM is the forced removal of genitalia, reassignment surgery is done with the approval of the participant. Quite a distinctive difference.

AnyFucker · 25/11/2022 23:05

Abusive

LulooLemon · 25/11/2022 23:06

In the next 10 years, we will surely see many young adults taking their well-meaning parents, therapists and surgeons to court for encouraging and facilitating this shocking abuse.

AnyFucker · 25/11/2022 23:07

reassignment surgery is done with the approval of the participant

I don’t believe that children can consent to such butchery

NewBootsAndRanty · 25/11/2022 23:08

PinkyU · 25/11/2022 23:03

I assume it’s because you misgendered the individual you were discussing, which is against the rules.

FGM is the forced removal of genitalia, reassignment surgery is done with the approval of the participant. Quite a distinctive difference.

How on earth would you set up a misgendering autodelete function?

PinkyU · 25/11/2022 23:09

NewBootsAndRanty · 25/11/2022 23:08

How on earth would you set up a misgendering autodelete function?

I would imagine the OP’s post was reported in order to be deleted.