Ok, be gentle; where will this maths level place her?

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DD's school will be setting them soon, think after half-term so beginning of November. There will be 3 abillity sets, plus a fourth for children who need a lot of support/SEN/ EAL etc. Where do people think a result of 4c would put her? Thankyou.

Depends on which year group she is in
( be gentle? coming from you?)

Hand holding greatly appreciated. Is your DS similar to my Dd re maths?

if year 7 then i woul imagine a middle set

Oh, mrsshears, am I that bad?

Year 7.

It's so dependent on the levels of the other children. And was that her leaving primary level, or the level her new school have assessed?

Your user name always makes me laugh, you are SO interested. But seriously, Id have thought shed be top of 3rd set, or bottom of second, depending on the cohort.

The result of a test taken this week. Left primary on 4, think borderline c/b.

My year 7 dd left primary on 4a/b borderline and is at the high end of the 3rd set of 4 (but I think there's an additional group for kids with SEN etc). Large comp with a varied intake in terms of background.

I won't comment on the second question

As meditrina says it really depends on the other childrens levels, in our school probably 4th set but in the school down the road most likely a higher set.
I have just found out dd1 is taking the foundation maths paper for GCSE so i understand your concern.

Choccyp1g, yes, the irony is sweet.

Mrsshears just looked at your thread, a grade c would be better than fine for me!

I reckon Set 3 out of 4 which is where my son got placed on a Level 4 but at the beginning of Yr 8 he got put up to Set 2. My friend's son stayed in Set 2 throughout the years and was one of 2 in Set 2 that got an A after a predicted E from his CATS tests. Not everyone in Set 1 got an A and he worked very hard.

It really depends on the school and intake. I know at least one child last year in Y7 who got a level 4 at KS2 and ended up in the bottom set, but my school has a high achieving intake. Even at my school usually it would be the set 3.

She'd be in the middle of our year 7s. Depends entirely in the school.

At my last state school a 4c would have put you in set 3 of 3 (we had two parallel half year groups). In the school I worked at previously it would have been Set 2 of 3.

In secondary?
Put it this way, I have a Y6 class and all bar a few of them arrived in class in September with levels of 4c and above in maths. They are looking at being 4a and above when they get to secondary, and around half or more will be a level 5b.

Why do you want to know? The whole point of setting is so that the children can get appropriate support to make good progress from wherever they are.

Depends entirely on school. Oldest DS left primary with Level 5, went into set 6 of 9, got a B, higher tier, GCSE. Youngest scraped level 4, also went into set 6 of 9, scraped a C, much rejoicing.

Depends hugely on the school but I would guess set 3 out of 4.

WofflingOn Why wouldn't I want to know?

And thanks very much for your first post, that's really cheered me up and set my mind at rest.

Would be Set 3 out of 4 at dds school too. But Sets 1 to 3 still do Higher tier Maths at GCSE and many get grade B at this level.
The support set would be for dcs who did not obtain level 4 at KS2.
Hope this cheers you up!

Impossible to tell, depends on cohort. 4c is slightly below average (I HATE NC levels, for this reason, because it's horrible 'defining' where a child is, but the 'expected' level for the end of Y6 is 4b), so I would guess set 3 out of 4.

Having said that though, at ds' school, he is 2nd set, and achieved 5a at Y6, only missing L6 by maybe 3 or 4 marks, it's just a v bright year!

(That is at state comp btw)

I just get tired of parents with less able children comparing their child with the rest of the cohort.
If she struggles with maths, needs a lot of support and is unsure of some of the basics, you should already know that. You should have been having those conversations with her Y6 teacher and finding out what she lacks, and working on how to support her.
She's a 4c, which is below the national average for Y6. Depending on the cohort she is moving up with, unless the majority are below the NA, then she will be in group 3 or 4. Where she will get encouragement, the correct pace, targeted work, support, scaffolding of her learning and assessments to identify and fill in the gaps. If the school she's going to know their job.
What does she find difficult about maths?