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Banjaxx · 17/05/2023 19:29

The article is behind a paywall OP

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WorriedGCRM · 18/05/2023 12:27

Thank you for posting this OP. I agree it is so important that GCRM patients are aware of what was happening.

BlueThursday · 18/05/2023 18:10

Shocked at this, well done Ms Henderson for having the guts.

when we were using ACS at the Royal
(2nd time so think 2013ish) we had to have the procedures done at the Nuffield as the NHS outcomes were deemed not good enough. What checks and balances are in place for the Private sector?

Onewsteeth · 06/07/2023 23:18

I don’t really understand the legal document, but we’re gcrm found at fault for any ivf procedures or is this purely on the grounds of dismissal?

Ironbalustrade · 07/07/2023 14:17

I’ve just read the document and it is very detailed. I did 3 IVF cycles with GCRM (pre TFP) and have 1 child from 3rd cycle. I found them very supportive and led by scientific evidence. I know I would not have had my child had Marco Gaudoin not been my doctor and advising me.

There’s a lot of background here and I do think the manager was obstructive and a very poor manager, alongside a push on ICSI treatment, however I also think the woman involved would be a nightmare to work with. She took a grievance out against the dr for the way he greeted her and demanded a PUBLIC apology. From what I read in the document, I think she was out of her depth in the busier lab and probably didn’t want to move from Nuffield. I do think there were staff shortages and a push for new patients to be treated sooner which isn’t great. Like most cases like this, I’m guessing it’s way more complex with the personalities involved.
Look at their stats before deciding whether to use them or not. I admit I haven’t looked for a while so I don’t know how they compare these days. I just wanted to pop on to say that I trusted the GCRM hugely when I had treatment and not to be too hasty in deciding not to go there on the basis of this.
It will be interesting to see what the award is.

Onewsteeth · 07/07/2023 14:31

Ironbalustrade · 07/07/2023 14:17

I’ve just read the document and it is very detailed. I did 3 IVF cycles with GCRM (pre TFP) and have 1 child from 3rd cycle. I found them very supportive and led by scientific evidence. I know I would not have had my child had Marco Gaudoin not been my doctor and advising me.

There’s a lot of background here and I do think the manager was obstructive and a very poor manager, alongside a push on ICSI treatment, however I also think the woman involved would be a nightmare to work with. She took a grievance out against the dr for the way he greeted her and demanded a PUBLIC apology. From what I read in the document, I think she was out of her depth in the busier lab and probably didn’t want to move from Nuffield. I do think there were staff shortages and a push for new patients to be treated sooner which isn’t great. Like most cases like this, I’m guessing it’s way more complex with the personalities involved.
Look at their stats before deciding whether to use them or not. I admit I haven’t looked for a while so I don’t know how they compare these days. I just wanted to pop on to say that I trusted the GCRM hugely when I had treatment and not to be too hasty in deciding not to go there on the basis of this.
It will be interesting to see what the award is.

Thanks so much for taking the time to read the document and respond. My take away was the same as well after reading most of it this morning. I should be starting my treatment at gcrm soon and I was so upset after reading this post and did not sleep 1 wink last night. I do not have the capability to go abroad or to England for treatment..

Ironbalustrade · 07/07/2023 16:36

Onewsteeth
IVF is such a stressful process and I’m not surprised you didn’t sleep. I would have felt the same in your situation. I wish you luck with your treatment.
I can’t emphasise enough that GCRM were fab with me. They know what they’re doing and have been doing it well for a long time now. Go with how they have treated you so far and their stats.
I do wonder if the OP has an axe to grind here.

Onewsteeth · 07/07/2023 18:02

Ironbalustrade · 07/07/2023 16:36

Onewsteeth
IVF is such a stressful process and I’m not surprised you didn’t sleep. I would have felt the same in your situation. I wish you luck with your treatment.
I can’t emphasise enough that GCRM were fab with me. They know what they’re doing and have been doing it well for a long time now. Go with how they have treated you so far and their stats.
I do wonder if the OP has an axe to grind here.

Thanks.. any views on ivf in Spain or Greece?

Ironbalustrade · 07/07/2023 19:06

Sorry, I don’t know anything about IVF in Spain or Greece. A friend had a child after IVF in Norway but that was a few years ago. Hausken Clinic.

Onewsteeth · 07/07/2023 19:23

Ironbalustrade · 07/07/2023 19:06

Sorry, I don’t know anything about IVF in Spain or Greece. A friend had a child after IVF in Norway but that was a few years ago. Hausken Clinic.

Thanks!

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