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Oral hygiene and intimacy

32 replies

DebraDebs · 07/11/2026 18:26

Long story short. I have been with my husband almost 20 years and, aesthetically his teeth have never looked great, but no issues.

5 years ago, his mouth started to smell really bad. Like sulphar, like waste, like feaces if I am honest. It was SO bad. Sometimes he only had to breathe through his nose and it would smell, from afar off also - for example I would go into his car and it would smell of his breath. When we were making love I could smell it also. Made me quiver to be truthful. But I tolerated it

When I raised it, he was incredibly defensive. Even if my approach was so light, sweet and loving - which it was in the beginning. He would deny it, accuse me of exaggerating and not do anything.

After some serious persuasion and many arguments as things were getting heated - I was so frustrated and trying to explain to him that it's because I care - he went to the dentist and he had 2x decayed teeth and had to have them removed - Sorted - smell gone!!!

The past 2 years however the smell has returned. I mentioned it and again, he started shouting at me, leaves the room, gets defensive and makes me feel so bad for bringing it up - again, I have brought it up in loving ways and yes, I will now admit I have shouted at him also and been incredibly honest about how it makes me feel and essentially turns me off. The thought of him kissing my body makes me feel awful.

Just to say we never kiss on the lips - like a deep, wet tounged kiss, because I have never been able to bring myself to it. We just peck and have been managing that (unspoken) for many many years and throughout.

Eventually, he went to the dentist who said he needs 11x fillings!!! This was over a year ago. His mouth stinks!! When I bring this up and explain to him that the holes/decay in his teeth IS contributing to the smell - the dentist confirmed this. Again, he gets very defensive, leaves the room and villainizes me. I have found myself apologising for bringing up his issue

I am so unhappy then get so engaged, because it's really not that deep. Just get fillings done!

It IS NOT because he is scared of the procedure or the dentist. I'm my view, it is because he is complacent and lazy. I even brought it up to our therapist - didn't land, nothing!!!!

I needed 4x fillings last year. All booked and completed within 2 months. Easy! I even tried to be a role model to him

I have been honest with him about how the smell he emits makes me feel and how I struggle with attraction. I cannot explain to you how bad his breath is

He constantly chews on gum to cover it and drenches himself in perfume.

I know others can smell it too - which embarrasses me further - I have told him this. Sometimes all he has to do is open his mouth and it smells

I had to have surgery 3 months ago and therefore we have not been able to be intimate

I have recovered it and essentially ready to be intimate and we have on one occasion. Although afterwards, we were having a discussion and all I could smell was his breath and I felt so sick, repulsed and enraged. Like PTSD.

I asked him again about the dentist, even called the dentist for him and she confirmed his outstanding treatment plan and he flared up and mistreated me

I feel the only option left is to deny my body to him. Which does not make me feel comfortable to do so but equally so, I cannot fathom the thought of intimacy with him.

I'm just debating whether I tell him what I am doing and why I am doing it. It will hurt him and no doubt it will be 'my fault' but I need to set my stall out. I have been begging him for years to sort it out and I'm so turned off

OP posts:
moderate · 07/11/2026 18:30

You don’t owe him anything, least of all intimacy under these circumstances. I’m surprised you’re not thinking of leaving him altogether to be honest.

Thedam · 07/11/2026 18:32

Oh gross. Just gross.

And do you have kids? I bet they dread being close to him

what about his work colleagues??

BCBird · 07/11/2026 18:35

I really feel for u OP. Some people just will not listen. Why is he so unconcerned about his hygiene? Sometimes when people are depressed this happens. As for not having sex with him, that is totally your decision I would feel exactly the same. I woukd simply remind him that the smell is putting u off intimacy if he asks.

Specialneedsnightmare · 07/11/2026 18:36

He's being ridiculous. Ok no one likes being told that they smell , but surely he should have the incentive to get it sorted considering it's affecting your attraction to him.

I'm sure he realises it and he's really sensitive about it , hence his reaction , but that doesn't excuse how childish he's being.

To be honest, in your shoes his attitude would put me off a lot more than the smell and I'm not sure I would want to continue the relationship.

Coconutter24 · 07/11/2026 18:36

It’s ok to not find him attractive and put of sex because of the smell, (well its not ok because it’s an issue but you know what I mean), but it’s not ok to use sex as a weapon

Sparrowsandbudgies · 07/11/2026 18:39

Have you actually said to him, really bluntly, that there will be no more sex, ever, unless he sorts this out? That’s what I’d do.

momager22 · 07/11/2026 18:40

Sounds like he’s putting his ego before
your comfort and ultimately your relationship.
gross. I couldn’t stay with someone who made my stomach turn like that.

ILoveKits · 07/11/2026 18:40

Is he dentist phobic underneath all this?
Does he brush twice a day and floss?

Cherrysherbet · 07/11/2026 18:47

Coconutter24 · 07/11/2026 18:36

It’s ok to not find him attractive and put of sex because of the smell, (well its not ok because it’s an issue but you know what I mean), but it’s not ok to use sex as a weapon

She’s not using sex as a weapon! He STINKS, and doesn’t have the decency to have treatment. That is disgusting. He’s forcing her into a really horrible situation. It’s very abusive. I’d leave.

SethAndReubenTooSendGaloshes · 07/11/2026 18:51

Coconutter24 · 07/11/2026 18:36

It’s ok to not find him attractive and put of sex because of the smell, (well its not ok because it’s an issue but you know what I mean), but it’s not ok to use sex as a weapon

She doesn't want to have sex with him. Currently she's getting her teeth through it because she doesn't want to upset him! It's not 'using sex as a weapon' to not have sex you don't want.

rightoguvnor · 07/11/2026 19:00

Stinky breath and piles. Two subjects you don’t want your intimate partner bringing up. However, it should only ever need to be brought up once.
Oral hygiene is really important to me, I wouldn’t be able to force myself to be intimate with him either (luckily, DH is very circumspect about this and there are no piles involved either). If he expects you to just accept that he won’t do anything about it, then he needs to accept that you won’t be having sex with him.
So the conversation would have to go “I wholly accept your right not to do anything about your oral health and hygiene, even for your own sake, but now you need to accept…”

Londersand · 07/11/2026 19:03

The lives some people live astonish me. Forcing yourself to have sex with his breath smelling of shit. ‘Denying him your body’? Leave the disgusting filthy man.

ForTipsyFinch · 07/11/2026 21:44

That’s awful and something I would leave over. It’s gross.

Eileen101 · 07/11/2026 21:49

My ex was, whilst not this bad, extremely lax with oral hygiene and it was awful. You deserve a medal for putting up with it. I used to say no sex til he'd cleaned his teeth.

DebraDebs · 07/11/2026 22:23

Coconutter24 · 07/11/2026 18:36

It’s ok to not find him attractive and put of sex because of the smell, (well its not ok because it’s an issue but you know what I mean), but it’s not ok to use sex as a weapon

I am not using sex as a weapon. I just have no desire to have sex in these circumstances

OP posts:
Londersand · 07/11/2026 22:38

Eileen101 · 07/11/2026 21:49

My ex was, whilst not this bad, extremely lax with oral hygiene and it was awful. You deserve a medal for putting up with it. I used to say no sex til he'd cleaned his teeth.

And you still found him attractive enough to get turned on by? Even though you had to direct him to perform basic hygiene before sex. Again….some people’s lives…

Crudd99 · 07/11/2026 22:48

It sounds like he's got gum disease and pockets of plaque under his gums. This builds up really fast if you don't brush and floss. Cavities are just one result of awful dental hygiene. If he's not prepared to look after his teeth they are going to fall out. Maybe he might be better off having them all out and having dentures. Gum disease can effect other parts of the body if it's left.
I feel really sorry for you I'd throw up if he came near me.

viques · 07/11/2026 22:50

You need to remind him that poor oral hygiene can lead to other health problems, particularly heart health, possibility of a stroke and other serious issues.

HappyViewer · 07/11/2026 23:04

viques · 07/11/2026 22:50

You need to remind him that poor oral hygiene can lead to other health problems, particularly heart health, possibility of a stroke and other serious issues.

Stroke, dementia, shorten life expectancy.

TealNewt · 07/11/2026 23:21

I'm sorry OP, I sympathise (everyone saying it's gross, just leave him, it's not always that easy!) My ex also had awful breath, I don't think he cleaned his teeth enough, but also smoked for years which can lead to gum disease. I just couldn't kiss him for years, it repulsed me. He said he was scared of the dentist, and like you I eventually managed to get him to go and get sorted out only for it to get bad again a couple of years later.

I eventually left him, not just because of his oral health. He remarried pretty quick, and got a couple of teeth removed because the new wife persuaded him. Seemed quite proud to tell me. Daughter hates hugging him as she's noticed now that his breath stinks!

Yupstillhere · 07/11/2026 23:31

I would be the same, that's grim, that's basic hygiene. Good/decent teeth are essential. He's being inconsiderate. He should be self conscious and get them sorted out for himself as well as his relationship.

Claptrapp · 07/11/2026 23:32

Coconutter24 · 07/11/2026 18:36

It’s ok to not find him attractive and put of sex because of the smell, (well its not ok because it’s an issue but you know what I mean), but it’s not ok to use sex as a weapon

Suggesting she's using sex as a weapon is coercive. She is not choosing to lose desire for him and shouldn't ever feel obliged to have sex with him if she doesn't want to. That is not true consent. Simple as that.

He needs to sort himself out, not her.

SnowFrogJelly · 07/11/2026 23:38

Have to wonder how he manages to need 11 fillings

AnonAnonmystery · 08/11/2026 00:40

@DebraDebs what do you mean he mistreated you? Was he violent?

DiligentDandelion · 08/11/2026 01:41

You’ve been far more patient than I would be or, imo, anyone should be. Hygiene is paramount and expecting someone to be intimate with you when your mouth smells, is all wrong. Can’t believe you have agreed to sex until now. Some very straight talking is in order, sort it or the relationship is in question. I wouldn’t care if he got angry. You should be angry at his gross inconsideration. Why should you care about his feelings when he clearly doesn’t care about yours. Honestly, I’d have left by now.