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Was this sexual abuse? (TW because definitely CA)

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Catanica · 07/11/2026 09:24

I visited my brother and had we talked a lot. He is a difficult character and very closed off and it's the first time that we have talked about some things. It was very upsetting and some of the things that he said were really shocking to me.

I remember our father being abusive but never my mother. My brother on the other hand said that she had been abusive, too, although he didn't use this term and outright refuses to acknowledge it for what it was.

He said that when he wet the bed she'd threaten to cu off his penis (made him pull it and held scissors close to it). He also said that he was told that if he ever got into a stranger's car the stranger would chop him up and eat him, but keep his penis for last because that's what child snatchers are really after. There were other things from when he was bit older (11 or 12) where both of his parents would have been quizzing him how he was feeling if there was a film with explicit sex scenes on.

He didn't even seem upset when telling me about it but just annoyed and said that it had really messed him up growing up and that he had become so scared to sleep in case he'd wet the bed that he was constantly tired in school.

I'm very upset by this because I'm very close to our mother and none of those things ever happened to me. I remember him being treated much more harshly than me but I was never scared like this. I'm not sure what to do with this information either. I don't want to accuse him of lying but it sounds a bit far fetched and I would like to ask my mother about it (and ask her what the hell is wrong with her), but I don't know where to even start.
Our childhood was completely chaotic and unstable, so not exactly a fairytale upbringing, but I'm horrified at my mother having done something like this.

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Lexibletheflexible · 07/11/2026 09:34

See, I remember that adults were a bit more explicit about the bad thing that could happen to you than we are now. I remember older relatives telling me I'd be snatched and found in a ditch from a young age but then still allowed out without proper adults. It was like they'd tell you how dangerous it is, but remind you that you have to navigate that and make it home for dinner or you'd ve grounded!

I do also know that some boys had adults in their lives that were sort of preoccupied with their penis, masturbation etc and would talk about cutting it off for various acts of rebellion. I don't think all these people realised they were being sexually inappropriate because I think they are immune to the idea that you can be sexually inappropriate towards a male just with words. I don't think it was always for their sexual gratification per se, but it is still sexually inappropriate and awful parenting.

I do think and have seen that some of the people who do and say things like this are all round creeps.

Altogether, I think you need to listen to your brother on this one. I think as a boy, he has the lived experience to know if that behaviour was intentional sexual abuse, or someone with poor boundaries being sexually inappropriate. The fact that you saw your brother being treated differently to you shows you that there were dynamics between your parent(s) and him that didnt exist with you.

Believe victims.

Lookingforwardtospringnextyear · 07/11/2026 09:42

Well if your reaction to what he told you is to doubt the truth of what he has said then it's understandable why he has never revealed these things before.
Given that you say your family life was chaotic and unstable, that your father was abusive and that you remember your brother was treated harshly I think it's quite surprising you think he isn't telling the truth.
You should encourage him to get counselling over what happened , if he hasn't already Probably he is ' closed off" because of what happened to him in his childhood.

Catanica · 07/11/2026 10:15

I didn't say that I didn't believe him. I just don't know how to deal with the situation yet

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Innish22 · 07/11/2026 14:16

Showing a young teenager sexually explicit material could potentially be classed as sexual abuse. I’m not sure about the rest but scaring a child into not sleeping would be emotional abuse for sure.
Im not sure what to advise but I would struggle not to have a word with my mother if I found out something like this.
Is he older or younger than you?

Idontjetwashthefucker · 07/11/2026 17:42

Catanica · 07/11/2026 10:15

I didn't say that I didn't believe him. I just don't know how to deal with the situation yet

You said you didnt want to accuse him of lying, why would do that if you believe him? Why do you need to talk to your mother first?

PinkMicrowave · 07/11/2026 17:51

I can see this must be a huge amount to process especially because you see your mother as the "good" parent, so this completely undermines your perception of her. This is very destabilising for you. Take some time to digest it all first.

Firstly though, it's not your place to speak to your mother about this and the fact that you think that would be appropriate kind of speaks to the level of dysfunction within your family. It's between him and her and taking this to her effectively rats your brother out to her. She'll almost certainly deny it whatever the truth.

It's common for one child to be singled out for abuse, so it doesn't need to have happened to you or for you, and the fact you both experienced an abusive and chaotic childhood, alongside the specificity of his disclosures, would make me inclined to believe him.

Catanica · 07/11/2026 19:58

PinkMicrowave · 07/11/2026 17:51

I can see this must be a huge amount to process especially because you see your mother as the "good" parent, so this completely undermines your perception of her. This is very destabilising for you. Take some time to digest it all first.

Firstly though, it's not your place to speak to your mother about this and the fact that you think that would be appropriate kind of speaks to the level of dysfunction within your family. It's between him and her and taking this to her effectively rats your brother out to her. She'll almost certainly deny it whatever the truth.

It's common for one child to be singled out for abuse, so it doesn't need to have happened to you or for you, and the fact you both experienced an abusive and chaotic childhood, alongside the specificity of his disclosures, would make me inclined to believe him.

Thank you. I'm just angry and I want to know what on earth she was thinking doing this. I haven't raised it with her, but I'm struggling with this.

Yes, I'm angry. He didn't get birthday presents, but I did, and I remember this because at some stage I did and he ended up with horrible butterfly stickers. And of him constantly telling me wild and bizarre stories explaining away why we were moving again. I don't remember him being bad or resentful towards me. And it really upsets me to think that he was treated like this.

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Catanica · 07/11/2026 20:00

Idontjetwashthefucker · 07/11/2026 17:42

You said you didnt want to accuse him of lying, why would do that if you believe him? Why do you need to talk to your mother first?

To ask her wtf is wrong with her.

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whippersnapper55 · 07/11/2026 22:57

Catanica · 07/11/2026 20:00

To ask her wtf is wrong with her.

I think it's very likely that if you confront your mother, she will deny it. Most abusers don't just admit their abusive behaviour when questioned. There's also the consideration of your brother's wishes - does he want you to speak to her about it or did he tell you in confidence? He is the one who suffered abuse from your mother so I think you need to be careful not to make things more uncomfortable for him.

GoodGirlFaith · 07/11/2026 23:07

I wouldn’t be able to remain neutral. I don’t see why your brother would make any of this up. I know mine wouldn’t. You already know that your parents were abusive.

I would either speak to my brother again about one of us confronting our mother with this, or withdraw from my relationship with my parents.

Londersand · 07/11/2026 23:09

Yeah. This doesn’t feel real. Nice try

Bathtonight · 07/11/2026 23:14

Catanica · 07/11/2026 20:00

To ask her wtf is wrong with her.

She’d deny it all

ALovelyPinkUnicorn · 08/11/2026 08:35

Catanica · 07/11/2026 19:58

Thank you. I'm just angry and I want to know what on earth she was thinking doing this. I haven't raised it with her, but I'm struggling with this.

Yes, I'm angry. He didn't get birthday presents, but I did, and I remember this because at some stage I did and he ended up with horrible butterfly stickers. And of him constantly telling me wild and bizarre stories explaining away why we were moving again. I don't remember him being bad or resentful towards me. And it really upsets me to think that he was treated like this.

was there no family or friends who noticed the no presents for him? Was this no presents ever? Christmas etc also?

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