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Upsidedownpumkin · 02/11/2026 19:36

Hello,

I believe this will be a typical scenario, but so hard when you're in it.

We have been together 15 years. In a few years I would've been with him half my life. We have four children together 10, 7, 3 and 1.

He works full time, I am part time occasionally full time hours with another part time seasonal job.

I am increasingly feeling like I have a 5th child to look after. He is great in so many ways. He is kind, he is generous and he loves me and the kids greatly but everything feels off balance as far as housework/child care... I try and talk about it but it usually comes out as an attack which just results in him apologising and the cycle continues.... I have to ask him to do stuff just like the kids and then it's a job on my mind until it's bloody done. I cook all the meals and do the food shop... All the school/child admin and my brain is just fried with it.

I'm starting to wonder if things would be easier apart. I love him and want to make it work but I just can't see this getting better. I have got in touch with a counsellor so hopefully will hear something back.

I just need advice and similar stories... I don't want this to be the end

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momtoboys · 02/11/2026 19:46

I don't know about others but I have definitely felt this way during my marriage of 29 years. I think it's just part of it. Sometimes the mere fact he is breathing annoys me. It always passes. And I say this and I have a husband who is incredibly helpful around the house. We had 5 kids in less that 4 years and both worked full time. We had to work together or we wouldn't have made it through the day. Still I can think of something that makes me crazy.

Upsidedownpumkin · 02/11/2026 19:55

Thanks for replying @momtoboys

This might sound crazy but what does helpful from your husband look like? Does he see mess and just tidy? Does he see washing and just put it away? My husband genuinely says he "doesn't see it".... He isn't useless... He does all the club runs although they are orchestrates by me he sorts the cars and organises the bills etc so am I expecting too much? I am home more than him which I appreciate and I don't think 50/50 is fair... It's more I want 50/50 when he IS here... I want him to offer to cook tea, give the kids a bath, flick the vacuum round or just do it?! I'm turning into a nag which I resent but otherwise I would do everything myself and feel resentful

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ScorpionLioness79 · 02/11/2026 20:10

Perhaps he would respond better to a weekly chart that's written on a big chalkboard or dry erase board. Instead of you being solely in charge of it, have it feel like he's part of a team and giving input. As example, maybe have him select the 3 nights per week he'll be giving baths, and then write his name on that task for the week. When you or he complete a task, you have to draw a line through it. You could also have your 2 older children take part in it, doing their age-appropriate chores, like setting the table, etc.

My first marriage failed for more egregious reasons, but when we did marital counseling and I complained that he and my 2 teen daughters couldn't think to prepare dinner when I was the last one home at 7:30, the therapist said that I would literally have to be detailed in writing out directions to them, of what food would be prepared, what time to start it, and what everybody's chores were for the day. It did work. I'm an independent person and get done what needs to be done without anybody's direction, so I don't understand people who need prodding. Sometimes, of course, people's brains are wired differently.

Anyway, good luck.

Upsidedownpumkin · 02/11/2026 20:15

Thanks @ScorpionLioness79

I did suggest a chart of some sort but he vetoed the idea without reason.

My older children unload the dishwasher, set the table and put washing away but again it takes me reminding it nagging until it's done otherwise it just... Wouldn't...

Usually one of us tackles bath one of us tackles kitchen but he will frequently just load the dishwasher and not wipe sides/table and leave dishes in the sink... If he is on bath duty he sits on his phone while they're in the bath... He could be watching TV with the older 2 but it will still be me who has to go in and say "right, bed time!"... Do you know I don't think hes always been quite so crappy but it's getting worse! It's little things but they're all adding up

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ScorpionLioness79 · 02/11/2026 20:36

Good luck with the counselor. If that doesn't show him how serious a matter this is, likely nothing will. If he fears having to pay child support and doing ALL the duties when it's his turn to take the children, maybe he will be scared straight.

moderate · 03/11/2026 07:40

Upsidedownpumkin · 02/11/2026 20:15

Thanks @ScorpionLioness79

I did suggest a chart of some sort but he vetoed the idea without reason.

My older children unload the dishwasher, set the table and put washing away but again it takes me reminding it nagging until it's done otherwise it just... Wouldn't...

Usually one of us tackles bath one of us tackles kitchen but he will frequently just load the dishwasher and not wipe sides/table and leave dishes in the sink... If he is on bath duty he sits on his phone while they're in the bath... He could be watching TV with the older 2 but it will still be me who has to go in and say "right, bed time!"... Do you know I don't think hes always been quite so crappy but it's getting worse! It's little things but they're all adding up

I did suggest a chart of some sort but he vetoed the idea without reason.

That’s because he knows how badly it would reflect on him.

He does see the dishes and the unwiped surfaces, he just doesn’t care enough about you to do the work himself.

The reason you feel it’s getting worse is because the more you let him get away with, the more he chances his arm.

Tell him it’s marriage counselling or divorce.

Tell him in marriage counselling it’s a chart of some sort or divorce.

Or just divorce him.

You will probably find that this also improves your children’s chore behaviour.

Celer · 03/11/2026 07:49

I agree that he has vetoed the chart because he is fully aware of how he will look. Absolute division of chores in whatever proportion you feel is fair. He does his, you do yours. They could vary a little day to day so you both do baths on different days but I’d try to make them as solid and consistent as possible. Give him whole processes eg empty bins/sort recycling/clean bins/ replace bags/replace bins. Change sheets weekly/wash sheets/dry sheets/put sheets away. Like he is a child until he gets it.

He sounds inept. Most unattractive.

blu3berry · 03/11/2026 07:58

Reading these posts, I never understand why the OP always has multiple children. Why keep having children with a man who isn’t helpful?

Upsidedownpumkin · 03/11/2026 11:39

Thanks everyone.

I'm going away in a few weekends time. Shall I just not do the weekly food delivery that usually comes on a Saturday morning? Or is that petty?

@blu3berry completely understand where you are coming from. In my instance it has been a gradual thing. We had kids young and I've gone through periods of being a stay at home parent or working minimally so it hasn't had too much of an impact and it seemed natural to pick up the slack at home. However, now the kids are getting older and I'm working more and I'm asking for more help and it's not forthcoming it's becoming very apparent.

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Cadenza12 · 03/11/2026 11:44

Upsidedownpumkin · 03/11/2026 11:39

Thanks everyone.

I'm going away in a few weekends time. Shall I just not do the weekly food delivery that usually comes on a Saturday morning? Or is that petty?

@blu3berry completely understand where you are coming from. In my instance it has been a gradual thing. We had kids young and I've gone through periods of being a stay at home parent or working minimally so it hasn't had too much of an impact and it seemed natural to pick up the slack at home. However, now the kids are getting older and I'm working more and I'm asking for more help and it's not forthcoming it's becoming very apparent.

Ah, that's the answer. He's used to you doing everything and doesn't see any need to change. I'm afraid you need to give him specific things to do and stay on his case until they are done. You've a lot on your plate and he must have good qualities otherwise you wouldn't have chosen to have 4 children with him. It'll be much easier all round raising them together.

FrenchandSaunders · 03/11/2026 11:45

I'd arrange the food shop as usual OP, that's not too much of an effort generally but I wouldn't be pre-cooking meals or leaving everything out for him, like kids clothes etc. It'll be good for him to learn whilst you're away.

Seaoftroubles · 03/11/2026 12:01

I would write a list of whatever is needed for the shopping but leave it to him to order it. You need to insist he plays his part in family life and he needs to realise how much work is involved in the day to day organising of 4 children.
I'm a great believer in lists and charts and he had no right to veto the idea but it's obvious why! When you return from your break have a talk with him and tell him just how serious the situation is as now you are working a lot more he needs to step up and do his share.

Whyarepeople · 03/11/2026 14:03

After our second (a DD) came along, my DH was useless. Some of it was down to the fact that DD wouldn't take a bottle and so was attached to me at all times which made it difficult for him to bond with her, but he responded by distancing himself and doing even less than he had done previously (which wasn't a lot). I was struggling too - DD didn't sleep and because only I could feed her I was overwhelmed. Meanwhile, DH was doing the bare minimum with our eldest (DS) - at one point I found out he hadn't brushed DS's teeth in six months!

I think what happened was that, given the stressful situation, DH felt lost and fell back on the model he got from his parents, which was his mother doing everything and his father working and then being a lazy arsehole. There were rows, but it all came to a head when DH very deliberately prioritised his work over mine, making it clear that he expected me to make all the sacrifices where he had to make none. It was so blatant it was actually quite helpful as he couldn't deny it. I lost it and said I'd had enough and said I wanted a divorce. One of the key things I said to him at the time was that if we split his life would get harder and mine would get easier, which said everything that needed to be said about the relationship.

What made the difference was that he could see I was serious about wanting a divorce. I pointed out to him (and he eventually accepted) the fact that he didn't bother listening to me until he stood to lose something, which is pretty shit. Over the following months, he tried various things to change my mind - big gestures, declarations of love etc. At one point he decided, with very bad grace, to 'take over' all the housework, presumably to make some sort of point. Of course, when he was doing housework I had to look after the children - he would never do it with a toddler and baby hanging off him, like I did. He huffed and puffed and complained endlessly about everything he was doing. I found it hilarious tbh - I nodded and smiled every time he mentioned the heroic work he was doing. Then, after two weeks, he just stopped. When I asked him about it he said - I kid you not - 'I've done the housework,' as though two weeks was enough and it was somehow finished. I think even at that point he knew how stupid he was being. He just couldn't admit that it was far harder than he expected and he regretted ever starting.

After being a massive baby about all that, he then came to me and said, yes, he could see the issue and yes, he was willing to change, but I would have to help him. I said 'Of course, I'll give you exactly the same amount of help you've given me. How about that?' - that amount being zero (or less than zero given that he'd made work for me). I also said that coming to me and saying he'd change but that it would involve me doing even more work was beyond arrogant and that, basically, he could fuck off. When he suggested couples counselling, I said, truthfully, that I am an excellent partner and do not need counselling, but if he needed it, he could go and get it.

Lo and behold he did go to a counsellor and she was some sort of magician. I think she helped him address some of the unhelpful ideas he had from his own childhood, which, because he is fundamentally a kind person, made him realise what a shithead he was being. The upshot is that about 10 years later we are still married and he is fabulous - he does far more than I do and at times I feel guilty about being the useless one. Our relationship is great - there's no resentment, pettiness, annoyances, whatever. We are a team.

With childcare and housework it's easy to get bogged down in details - who does what, standards etc. but underneath that there's something more fundamental around feeling cared for, seen and supported. If you spend time making a kitchen sparkle and then someone messes it up and doesn't clean it, it feels disrespectful, as though they just don't care about you, your effort or your time. It seems small but it really isn't - over time 'small' things like this corrode and corrode the relationship until you look at the person and feel they must hate you, or a least not like you very much. They themselves become an annoyance. No one wants to be seen that way.

I think you need to really honest about the fact that you're considering ending the relationship. Don't let him make you feel you're overreacting - you are not. The really frustrating thing is, solving this problem can lead to a genuinely massive improvement in your relationship, for both of you. DH has said numerous times that he is far happier now than he ever was previously, even though on paper he is a lot busier. He's not another child for me to deal with. He can respect himself as a partner and a father. He likes being involved - he's bloody good at it. The kids have huge respect for him and know they can rely on him. I think he's the best, which of course has a positive impact on our relationship :) It is worth trying to fix this, but your DH has to be on board. Making him see the need might be the hardest step.

Upsidedownpumkin · 03/11/2026 16:09

@Whyarepeople

This gives me so much hope - thank you. Because honestly, my husband isn't a bad person and there is love and something worth fighting for. I'd hate for it to end over this.

It is that disrespect isn't it? It feels like when he leaves stuff that he's in a privileged position to do so - it always gets done. Whether it's conscious or not I don't know.

He has agreed to do some counselling. I need a better way of communicating with him that isn't just breaking down out of exasperation which then leads to him apologising - it just isn't productive!

I think he is willing to put the work in but doesn't know where to start and I absolutely despise asking him.

I will be honest about how serious this is. Thank you so much for your positive post... But also, sorry you had to go through it!

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Whyarepeople · 03/11/2026 16:27

Upsidedownpumkin · 03/11/2026 16:09

@Whyarepeople

This gives me so much hope - thank you. Because honestly, my husband isn't a bad person and there is love and something worth fighting for. I'd hate for it to end over this.

It is that disrespect isn't it? It feels like when he leaves stuff that he's in a privileged position to do so - it always gets done. Whether it's conscious or not I don't know.

He has agreed to do some counselling. I need a better way of communicating with him that isn't just breaking down out of exasperation which then leads to him apologising - it just isn't productive!

I think he is willing to put the work in but doesn't know where to start and I absolutely despise asking him.

I will be honest about how serious this is. Thank you so much for your positive post... But also, sorry you had to go through it!

I'm glad it was helpful. If I could offer even more advice - beware of thinking that you're not communicating correctly. If you're speaking a language he speaks (English I presume) then you're communicating just fine. The problem is that he doesn't want to hear what you have to say so he shuts you down with apologies so that you go away.

It wasn't the case that my DH didn't understand or didn't know where to start. Despite outwardly appearing very progressive, his upbringing had taught him that housework and childcare were women's work and that I should be grateful for any 'help' he gave me. He couldn't admit that way of thinking though, because it made him look like such a dickhead, so we were stuck in this impasse of me complaining, him being sorry and nothing changing. Once he actually addressed the underlying issue the whole thing was resolved and suddenly he was able to do everything because there was no constant voice from his Man Training telling him he shouldn't be doing it or he was doing it as a favour or he was some sort of hero for mopping the floor.

I'm sure your DH isn't an idiot. He can see things need doing, he just doesn't believe it's his job to do them, so your reasonable requests for him to pull his weight are interpreted by him as nagging and ingratitude. You can't change that, only he can.

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