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Flaky friend - time to walk away?

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EmailEve · 16/07/2026 10:51

I have a male friend 10yrs younger than me (F mid50s) and we've been friends for 15yrs+. We sporadically meet up and he goes through phases of lots of contact and then vanishes. He has a really unstable relationship history and I realised recently that I only hear from him when he needs support or affirming (or wants company maybe?)

I've lost my parents and a brother in the period I have known him and have very few friends in reality following a breakdown a few yrs back (lockdown 2). I know I should recognise his behaviour as being on the using-side and just leave it 'there' as it is really quite toxic-feeling at times to have messages ignored and when I ask why he hasn't responded he gets defensive about being busy. Having lost so much I know I don't want to lose more, but I am being an idiot trying to keep this so-called friendship alive, aren't I...?

It is non-romantic btw and he has a F partner and I have a H

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FetchezLaVache · 16/07/2026 10:54

It's not flaky as such, he just sees you as an emotional support person rather than a friend. He only wants to see you when he needs you.

How supportive was he when you lost your family members? I imagine not much.

I suppose it just boils down to whether you're happy with a sporadic agony aunt role in his life...

SinisterPeaches · 16/07/2026 10:56

I don’t think you need to walk away, no. You can also accept that this friendship has value even if you would like more regular contact, and work on making new friendships /deepening old ones so that you have other sources of emotional support. No one should be leaning too heavily on any one friendship, anyway. It’s not healthy for either person.

EmailEve · 16/07/2026 11:24

Thank you both for those comments. Geuinely appreciated. I am a bit of an all or nothing character

He did little for any of my losses and distanced after mum as presumably he didn't want that pressure of supporting grieving

I am plotting my retirement and I think making friends based on activities would be a positive next step

Certainly need to stop my "...has he gone again...?" narrative

Again, thanks for the sane words

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AuntieLemonade · 16/07/2026 14:20

Have a look at the “reasons, seasons, lifetime” narrative. It helps to see what type of friendships you have and if you are happy with them. Not all friends can be all things. Then find some more who have the other elements that this one is missing. And if his friendship is one sided and brings you nothing back, it’s fine for you to move on. What you can’t do is hope it will change and be upset that it doesn’t. Best of luck for your next chapter! X

RosieRR · 16/07/2026 15:00

Hello since retiring I have made lots of new friends and acquaintances through hobbies and activites etc. It's been great, some slow burners some quicker connections. Look forward and open up your social world. It's certainly surprised me!
It may help you decide if you really need this friend or not.

LadyGemBelleoftheBall · 16/07/2026 15:06

I have been in the kind of situation and it hurts.

I decided to adjust my focus and look in different directions. I started messaging other friends to ask them to meet for coffee etc., and took up a few new hobbies.

I adjusted my expectations of my friend after deciding that ultimately, when we do spend time together, it's very enjoyable and we do get along very well and have fun.

I would try dong this rather than cut him off.

KitsyWitsy · 16/07/2026 15:12

Relegate him to occasion meetup friend and deepen other friendships. I have had to do this myself. Concentrate on the people who are there for you and less so on the ones that aren't. I now put in the same energy to friendships that I get.

Ireallywantadoughnut36 · 16/07/2026 16:23

Sometimes friends are like this, one of my best is a big "gets distracted and never texts back" although she will make the effort to see me when she's available and has many wonderful positives. You know him, he is who he is, you can't change him into a different (more supportive and kinder) person. It's up to you if you still like him despite his weaknesses/issues. You also do not have to be his agony aunt, you get to say no too or ignore his needs when its not convenient for you. I'd personally just accept his flaws, enjoy his company as/when it suits and see it for what it is - he just isnt the one for supporting you when required or being there when you need a rock, but maybe he is great for an hillarious dinner out or when you need someone to lift your spirits. Try and build further friendships via new hobbies etc so that when he is off doing something else, it feels less of a personal loss and so you can ensure you do have plenty of support from people who want to play that role and are great at doing it.

OMGDidYouSayThat · 16/07/2026 16:58

Have you ever needed his support and if you did would he be there?...if the answer is, no, or i doubt it then tell him to find a new shoulder to cry on.

Wbag · 17/07/2026 17:03

Friendships are two-way, so this is just a person you support from time to time. If you enjoy it, then no harm, but I recommend getting social with others and nurturing more two-way, consistent friendships for both now and the future.

EarthSight · 17/07/2026 17:16

Most of the time, when contact is usually sporadic or confusing, it's because you're being used.

Yes, people are busy, especially if they have small children, but usually, being busy is an excuse as to why they are not reciprocating, like they know they should be.

It's flaky or confusing because their reason for contacting you doesn't follow-on naturally from you both having a nice time. Instead, it's more dependent on what they feel like they're lacking in life in that moment, which is on a different timetable. Something happens, then they reach out to their tool (you) to fix that feeling, and once it's fixed, you won't hear from them until it's broken again.

They see you as a service, and personally, even though I've seen this in women, I think men are more likely to see people, especially women, as a collection of different services they can call-off when they need it. It's worth noting that just because they want, or you're good at one service though, doesn't mean they appreciate or enjoy spending time with you as a whole person. The same as they wouldn't necessarily feel the need to have dinner with their mechanic, or emotionally support their accountant.

This type of arrangement is acceptable to some people, but you are entirely reasonable to not be ok with it and seek a more reliable, supportive friendship where contact is not to much on their terms.

EmailEve · 17/07/2026 18:35

EarthSight · 17/07/2026 17:16

Most of the time, when contact is usually sporadic or confusing, it's because you're being used.

Yes, people are busy, especially if they have small children, but usually, being busy is an excuse as to why they are not reciprocating, like they know they should be.

It's flaky or confusing because their reason for contacting you doesn't follow-on naturally from you both having a nice time. Instead, it's more dependent on what they feel like they're lacking in life in that moment, which is on a different timetable. Something happens, then they reach out to their tool (you) to fix that feeling, and once it's fixed, you won't hear from them until it's broken again.

They see you as a service, and personally, even though I've seen this in women, I think men are more likely to see people, especially women, as a collection of different services they can call-off when they need it. It's worth noting that just because they want, or you're good at one service though, doesn't mean they appreciate or enjoy spending time with you as a whole person. The same as they wouldn't necessarily feel the need to have dinner with their mechanic, or emotionally support their accountant.

This type of arrangement is acceptable to some people, but you are entirely reasonable to not be ok with it and seek a more reliable, supportive friendship where contact is not to much on their terms.

Edited

Thank you - I needed to see it written to recognise the "flaky" side is actually being used

Thanks

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TreesAtSea · 17/07/2026 19:26

I also agree with @EarthSight
I'm in a similar situation with a platonic male friend, though admittedly we've never been close. As the post says, the confusion comes from there being no apparent reason for the lack of contact. When I last saw him we had a genuinely enjoyable time - I didn't imagine that. So it messes with your head to then hear nothing.
Something I read on another thread hit home too. The reason he previously confided some very personal stuff to me wasn't because he saw me as a trusted friend, but rather that he wanted to dump his problems on someone. He knew he'd get a sympathetic hearing and, importantly, the fact that I wasn't in contact with anyone in his inner circle meant nothing he told me could get back to them.
Contact was sporadic anyway, but since the New Year I've heard nothing. For my own peace of mind I sent one last message a couple of weeks ago. If he ever replies, well, I'll see what he says. Otherwise, I'm done. At least I see the situation clearly now.

Wbag · 17/07/2026 19:42

FetchezLaVache · 16/07/2026 10:54

It's not flaky as such, he just sees you as an emotional support person rather than a friend. He only wants to see you when he needs you.

How supportive was he when you lost your family members? I imagine not much.

I suppose it just boils down to whether you're happy with a sporadic agony aunt role in his life...

^

IsawwhatIsaw · 17/07/2026 19:51

FetchezLaVache · 16/07/2026 10:54

It's not flaky as such, he just sees you as an emotional support person rather than a friend. He only wants to see you when he needs you.

How supportive was he when you lost your family members? I imagine not much.

I suppose it just boils down to whether you're happy with a sporadic agony aunt role in his life...

Agree- You are basically acting as an unpaid counsellor to him.
I’d look for more respectful reciprocal friendships

EmailEve · 18/07/2026 08:12

So many helpful comments here. Thank you all

My conclusion is that all I have to do wrt the 'friend' is literally nothing

Don't message him as then the no reply doesn't live rent free in my head. When he next makes contact (which he will with gusto of "I'm back! How are you? I miss you!") is to be otherwise engaged

As in, start building myself a world aside of this. My job is all consuming sadly and I have been really struggling with my health for awhile now (2yrs) and I think it is stress related. He is a stresser and the job is a stresser. For the first I do nothing. For the other, I get myself into a position to move on or retire - that takes work either way but from your incredibly helpful comments, I realise that my kindness has been manipulated

Cathartic!

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TreesAtSea · 18/07/2026 13:44

@EmailEve That's a really good way of looking at it. Google AI told me the same thing :-) I'll take advice anywhere I can find it.
It said that the wonderful thing about my situation with my male friend was that I didn't have to do anything about it, now that I'd sent my "last message".
I didn't say goodbye, but I know I will not send another unless I get a decent reply and there's a massive change in his behaviour. Which I'm sure there won't be. It doesn't mean I never think about it, but it does mean I now feel "off the hook" as it were.
Good luck with easing the work-related stress!

EmailEve · 18/07/2026 18:11

TreesAtSea · 18/07/2026 13:44

@EmailEve That's a really good way of looking at it. Google AI told me the same thing :-) I'll take advice anywhere I can find it.
It said that the wonderful thing about my situation with my male friend was that I didn't have to do anything about it, now that I'd sent my "last message".
I didn't say goodbye, but I know I will not send another unless I get a decent reply and there's a massive change in his behaviour. Which I'm sure there won't be. It doesn't mean I never think about it, but it does mean I now feel "off the hook" as it were.
Good luck with easing the work-related stress!

Grateful for your honesty

I feel I have been at that 'I'm done' stage several times and severed connection at one point two years ago. Then go pulled back in, again I realise as his support puppet

Last time I saw him I honestly thought we'd had a good laugh and we're cruising into open water as equal friends

How wrong eh. My brother died not long ago and honestly, I'm just looking to exit work and start some nice hobbies, walking or something, and meet some nice people who aren't into this mind game bs.

Thanks again and love AIs clinical yet kind response!

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TreesAtSea · 18/07/2026 20:04

@EmailEve Thank you. Yes, you don't need any more drama in your life after your recent lossFlowers
On another recent thread about a romantic relationship, a poster said that a partner is meant to ease your troubles, not create them. Obvious to most people, but sometimes you just need to see things stated clearly in black and white.
Like yours, my "friend" is also a decade younger than and I wonder if maybe he sees me as a sort of maternal figure, someone who'll be endlessly accommodating. Well, no longer.
The AI response was funny. At another point, it started really slating him, giving a bullet-point list of all his shortcomings, when all I'd mentioned was a lack of reliable contact😂

EmailEve · 18/07/2026 20:24

TreesAtSea · 18/07/2026 20:04

@EmailEve Thank you. Yes, you don't need any more drama in your life after your recent lossFlowers
On another recent thread about a romantic relationship, a poster said that a partner is meant to ease your troubles, not create them. Obvious to most people, but sometimes you just need to see things stated clearly in black and white.
Like yours, my "friend" is also a decade younger than and I wonder if maybe he sees me as a sort of maternal figure, someone who'll be endlessly accommodating. Well, no longer.
The AI response was funny. At another point, it started really slating him, giving a bullet-point list of all his shortcomings, when all I'd mentioned was a lack of reliable contact😂

😆🫣 go AI knows us better than we know ourselves

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