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Would you trust DH after these Prague stag weekend inconsistencies?

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Confusedflower124 · 23/04/2026 13:30

Hi everyone. I’m looking for some perspective as I’m feeling very uneasy following DH’s return from a stag weekend in Prague. Until now, I’ve had no reason to doubt him, but I’ve found a few things that aren't adding up.

The Search History: While he was away, I saw searches on our shared tablet for a specific sex massage parlour, including map directions, and things like "Roly Poly show." He claims the group was just "having a laugh" and looking things up together.

The Boxers: While doing the washing, I found a pair of his boxers with a white stain on the inside. He denies any physical contact or even masturbating the whole trip, saying he has "no idea" what it is.

The "Joint" Dance: He eventually admitted the group of 10 had a "joint private dance" with the stag in a small room.

The Text Message: I saw a message from his close friend sent at 2am on the second night asking, "How was it?" I haven't confronted him about this yet.

He has been patient, hasn't got flippant, and has offered me his phone and passwords. However, my ex-husband had an affair and left when I was 8 months pregnant, so my "radar" is sensitive.

Am I being paranoid due to my past, or is this a classic case of "what happens in Prague stays in Prague"? Does the 2am text suggest something happened that the rest of the group wasn't involved in?

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allthingsinmoderation · Yesterday 13:41

Confusedflower124 · 23/04/2026 18:42

Strip clubs in themselves aren’t a dealbreaker - do I like it? No but I can let it pass. He told me they had this group private dance, apparently the stag was in the middle and the rest sat round in a circle. He told me the girls were naked and did go round all of them. Just don’t know what to believe

Is the private group dance with naked girls going round each of them a deal breaker?
But agree with the idea that it is impossible to prove wether your husband did or didnt do more than you have now weedled out of him.

devonsevon11 · Yesterday 15:25

Megifer · Yesterday 12:27

"Flipping this around a girls hen weekend with a chippendale style act is that not the same"

Absolutely the same if the Chippendale offers private dances where he'd drape his ballsack across the brides lips at the bare minimum.

No, I don’t think girls on a hen weekend with a chippendale is comparable at all.

Men and women are fundamentally different and I don’t find these direct comparisons helpful. It’s like the people who got offended by the Black Lives Matter movement and made their White Lives Matter posters - you can’t draw direct comparisons, the situation is much more nuanced than that.

I don’t know any female who would be remotely aroused by an unknown man draping his ballsack over her lips while her friends looked on.

I don’t think she would be smacking her lips with her hand down her trousers furiously maturbating while her friends looked on. It just doesn’t happen.

Whereas that is absolutely the type of thing that men do.

It’s just not comparable.

And I do struggle with that fundamental difference. Very rarely do I come across a male who turns my head (and if I did I wouldn’t do anything about it), but I know that my partner probably thinks about shagging about 50% of the women that he meets on a daily basis, and if he was single, would probably attempt to do so.

And he’s not a horrible, perverted sleaze. He’s a perfectly charming, polite, professional male. But he is a male, and an awful lot of them would shag anything. And I hate that. But that’s just what a lot of men are like.

OP, I think there are too many red flags to ignore here. As a pp said, why is a laugh to look up the location of the massage parlour. There’s really nothing funny about the directions to the place.

I think ultimately most men get turned on by unknown, naked women gyrating in their faces in a way that women just do not, and in a situation where their friends are egging them on and the woman is offering more, I think they would mostly go for it.

im sorry. Its awful.

devonsevon11 · Yesterday 15:28

OtterlyAstounding · Yesterday 12:31

If they were decent by my standards, they wouldn't go to a strip club. And I've known many men over the years who wouldn't and haven't – not every man finds the idea of going to a strip club appealing. They can have a whole variety of reasons for not going.

Considering I've been happily married for nearly twenty years, I'm not complaining :)

But I do think it's desperately sad that you think expecting a man not to go to a strip club isn't just high standards, but 'ridiculously' high.

Further to my post below, in which I probably inadvertently made my husband sound like a creep, (he’s a normal guy but I think most guys are creeps tbh) I would add this….

It would depend on who he was with.

He has work colleagues and hobby friends who
are lovely and I don’t think they would go to a strip club on a night out.

He has friends from college who are “lads” and he would absolutely go along with them and get swept up in all sorts rather than be the one to say “no I’m going home”.

Call it peer pressure or whatever, but it has a lot to answer for.

Letamumsleep · Yesterday 15:31

Whilst I think he’s lying to you OP, I think the outrage about “men who go to Prague /Eastern Europe on stag dos” the most ridiculous thing. It’s a cheap, fun city. Just like all the others. There is sordid stuff in every city, in every country.

EarthSight · Yesterday 15:35

The whole thing sounds so suspicious and skanky to me. Unless they're culture buffs, the main reasons why groups of men go to Prague is cheap beer and prostitutes, which is closely linked with strip clubs.

EarthSight · Yesterday 15:39

I agree @devonsevon11 There are aspects of this that just aren't comparable.

I'm sorry OP, but I think he has no respect for you and must think you're dim, like a lot of men do about their female partners.

DinoDoughnut81 · Yesterday 17:36

I was on a holiday to Prague 2 years ago and am going again soon. Sitting next to a stag do last time on the plane. It was yuck! They were lairy and talking very loudly about how many condoms they had, how the dancers do extras, costs and everything really. I put my headphones on eventually. They were shamefaced and quiet as mice on the way back.

There's usually only one reason stags and bloke holidays are going are going to Prague and it's some form of sex, from lap dances to full service. There are beautiful things to see and do but the groups of blokes aren't there for the architecture. You don't see them in museums!

I also have a creepy male pal who goes to Prague and Amsterdam for sexcations. Lots of the lap dancing places in Prague are fronts for brothels he tells me. It's a lot looser than the U.K. with lots of dancers doing a lot more. There are also loads of brothels generally. He actually loves giving grim details of his exploits in them. I don't know why he's a pal to be honest. I've known him a long time ha.

Men behave differently on these stag nights and euro boys weekends away I reckon. Do things they might not do at home. Same rules don't apply.

When I was on holiday in Budapest, which I used to visit pretty regularly I was having a drink in the hotel bar which overlooked the lobby. There was a group of UK guys in the hotel, very normie, suburban middle aged dad types. When we looked over the balcony they were below and they were all on their phones scrolling and checking out sex workers before making choices and heading off for the night. I was pretty shocked at how open they were. Not a care in the world. I mean you see them all going to the strip clubs and stuff..Seeing them at the breakfast buffet the next day... Sure some of them might be single but I bet most weren't. Partners at home so naive and unaware.

Seeing and knowing this I would never underestimate what goes on and how different blokes can be away from home with other blokes. Cheap booze, cheap sex.

OtterlyAstounding · Today 01:32

devonsevon11 · Yesterday 15:28

Further to my post below, in which I probably inadvertently made my husband sound like a creep, (he’s a normal guy but I think most guys are creeps tbh) I would add this….

It would depend on who he was with.

He has work colleagues and hobby friends who
are lovely and I don’t think they would go to a strip club on a night out.

He has friends from college who are “lads” and he would absolutely go along with them and get swept up in all sorts rather than be the one to say “no I’m going home”.

Call it peer pressure or whatever, but it has a lot to answer for.

Personally, I wouldn't date someone who had 'laddish' friends, as I think it says something about their own character that they're happy to socialise with men who so blatantly lack respect for women.

I do agree that the way men and women view sex, and view the opposite sex is very different. We are socialised in a society that objectifies women, and even women are more likely to see other women as objects, and men as people. There are absolutely far more men who lack a fundamental respect for women, and will only put on a veneer of respectfulness when it suits them.

But I do think peer pressure is a pretty pathetic excuse for an adult to do something that they personally find distasteful and unethical. If a man doesn't want to do something, he should have the spine to decline – which makes me think he actually doesn't want to decline, and he's using peer pressure as an excuse to do what he wants.

Really, I think that expecting your DH or DP to not go and have naked women gyrate in front of him or on him should be the bare minimum. It's so sad that so many women feel they have to try to justify to themselves why it's okay for their DP to go to a strip club, because they know he wouldn't stop if they asked but rather would just lie about it.

(And on a side note, how pathetic is it that a grown man would be so excited from being up close with a naked woman that – despite alcohol/drugs that make climax more difficult to reach – he literally ejaculates in his pants without even touching himself? What is he, 14, and with no self-control?)

Alwaysthesameoldstory · Today 03:13

Confusedflower124 · 23/04/2026 18:42

Strip clubs in themselves aren’t a dealbreaker - do I like it? No but I can let it pass. He told me they had this group private dance, apparently the stag was in the middle and the rest sat round in a circle. He told me the girls were naked and did go round all of them. Just don’t know what to believe

I find it hard to understand why you are ok with your partner being aroused watching naked women interacting with his friends so long as they didn't go near him!

You even make going on a " boat party" sound like an innocent activity when in reality there would be strippers and sex workers on the boat.

Honestly OP if your partner is the type of man who goes on stag dos to Prague and by his own admission participates in group lap dances , do you really think he has any qualms about cheating on you? Thats why men like your partner and his pals go on these dos in the first place.

What a way to celebrate an upcoming marriage. Does the bride know what the groom was up to with these naked women all over him?

ApproachingMinimums · Today 09:05

OtterlyAstounding · Today 01:32

Personally, I wouldn't date someone who had 'laddish' friends, as I think it says something about their own character that they're happy to socialise with men who so blatantly lack respect for women.

I do agree that the way men and women view sex, and view the opposite sex is very different. We are socialised in a society that objectifies women, and even women are more likely to see other women as objects, and men as people. There are absolutely far more men who lack a fundamental respect for women, and will only put on a veneer of respectfulness when it suits them.

But I do think peer pressure is a pretty pathetic excuse for an adult to do something that they personally find distasteful and unethical. If a man doesn't want to do something, he should have the spine to decline – which makes me think he actually doesn't want to decline, and he's using peer pressure as an excuse to do what he wants.

Really, I think that expecting your DH or DP to not go and have naked women gyrate in front of him or on him should be the bare minimum. It's so sad that so many women feel they have to try to justify to themselves why it's okay for their DP to go to a strip club, because they know he wouldn't stop if they asked but rather would just lie about it.

(And on a side note, how pathetic is it that a grown man would be so excited from being up close with a naked woman that – despite alcohol/drugs that make climax more difficult to reach – he literally ejaculates in his pants without even touching himself? What is he, 14, and with no self-control?)

I agree with this. One of the reasons I married DH is that this is the last thing he would consider as entertainment.

He's a bit geeky. Raised mostly by his Mum and older sister and so can see life from a female perspective quite well.

I'm uncomfortable with laddish behaviour of any sort so even if my DH went on a trip like this, I would be re-evaluating.

ExtraOnions · Today 09:22

If a man was scrutinising a woman’s knickers, and then quizzing her about stains, you would all be up in arms.

devonsevon11 · Today 11:16

OtterlyAstounding · Today 01:32

Personally, I wouldn't date someone who had 'laddish' friends, as I think it says something about their own character that they're happy to socialise with men who so blatantly lack respect for women.

I do agree that the way men and women view sex, and view the opposite sex is very different. We are socialised in a society that objectifies women, and even women are more likely to see other women as objects, and men as people. There are absolutely far more men who lack a fundamental respect for women, and will only put on a veneer of respectfulness when it suits them.

But I do think peer pressure is a pretty pathetic excuse for an adult to do something that they personally find distasteful and unethical. If a man doesn't want to do something, he should have the spine to decline – which makes me think he actually doesn't want to decline, and he's using peer pressure as an excuse to do what he wants.

Really, I think that expecting your DH or DP to not go and have naked women gyrate in front of him or on him should be the bare minimum. It's so sad that so many women feel they have to try to justify to themselves why it's okay for their DP to go to a strip club, because they know he wouldn't stop if they asked but rather would just lie about it.

(And on a side note, how pathetic is it that a grown man would be so excited from being up close with a naked woman that – despite alcohol/drugs that make climax more difficult to reach – he literally ejaculates in his pants without even touching himself? What is he, 14, and with no self-control?)

Not dating someone who has laddish friends - my husband has many different groups of friends. Some of the ones from his younger years are not particularly to my taste, but it’s not something I would have not married him for.

The lack of respect for women and veneer of respectfulness when it suits them - yes, I agree. A lot of men do this. Even men you would not expect it from.

Peer pressure - yes, it is disappointing. And it is
something my husband struggles with. He was bullied at school (started young, because he wore glasses) and became a bit of a people pleaser due to that, desperate to fit in. It’s something that probably took me point out to him but he does now see it and acknowledge it but it is difficult to change. So he does bow to peer pressure quite a bit. However, he and a lot of other men, probably don’t see things like strip clubs as unethical. Aside from the cheating aspect of it, many (probably most) men don’t think about the ethics are regards consent and coercion etc. And I don’t think this is a male thing particularly. I’m 46 now but in my teens and 20s spent time in strip clubs on nights out when clubs shut. The treatment of the women didn’t occur to any of us. We all just assumed they enjoyed doing it and made good money from it. There is much more awareness now, which is obviously a good thing, but obviously men try not to think about it too much as it gets in the way of what they want to do.

I found it interesting a couple of posters who said that men full of bravado on the flight to Prague / in pub on first night, were very quiet and shame faced at the end of the holiday. I’d be interested to know if this was because of guilt for cheating on their partners (whether that be massage / prostitution or “just” private dance), or because it was obvious that the women were not doing it of free will and they ethics of it was hard for them to reconcile with how they imagined it.

In my marriage, my husband is a hot blooded male who I know watches porn. I don’t think it’s excessive, and it’s nothing extreme. I’m not a so called “cool wife”; It makes me jealous and I don’t like it, but I’ve learned to accept it. Because what’s the alternative? That he, as a mid 40s male, DOESNT like looking at naked females?

so no, I’m not a cool wife. I’m also not a controlling wife, however, if he was invited on a stag do to Prague, I think I would ask him not to go. And that is a direct consequence of his lack of backbone and people pleasing tendencies that mean he would be liable to get swept along and do things he wouldn’t normally do / would regret. And I think he would understand this. He’s done things once before for these reasons and risked our marriage, so he’s lost the privilege of having my unwavering trust.

And I’m not absolving him of responsibility and saying he’d be “led astray” by his bad boy friends. He would absolutely be doing these things becuase he wanted to do them. But wanting to do them at a base level and getting swept along and encouraged by unsavoury friends means it’s much more likely to happen than simply “wanting to do them”.

a male wanting to have sex with a beautiful Eastern European girl when on holiday - I think most men would “want” that to be honest, and I think many women are being hugely naive to think that their husband would have absolutely no interest in that.

Men are fuelled by testosterone. Loads of them would want to do it. Yes, some of them have more back bone than others, others have better or worse friends, some of them can’t handle their drink, some of them find it difficult to stop a situation once it has been set in motion, and some of them don’t care and will do whatever they want if they think they won’t get found out, whereas others will go down this route and then be wracked with guilt afterwards.

Personally, I can think of nothing worse than going on holiday and letting a stranger insert a body part into me. Whereas for an awful lot of men that’s the entire goal of the trip. And that’s a huge fundamental difference between women and men. And there’s no point in pretending it doesn’t exist.

Anyway, from the sounds of the OPs update (husband saying that the group went somewhere without the texting friend, and Burger King photo) it sounds like possibly the strip club was the extent of it.

Not ideal, but could be much worse.

As regards the ejaculating in his pants, yes, it is horrible. I would absolutely hate that. And what on earth was she doing to illicit such a strong, hands free reaction? Probably something quite extreme.

OtterlyAstounding · Today 11:36

devonsevon11 · Today 11:16

Not dating someone who has laddish friends - my husband has many different groups of friends. Some of the ones from his younger years are not particularly to my taste, but it’s not something I would have not married him for.

The lack of respect for women and veneer of respectfulness when it suits them - yes, I agree. A lot of men do this. Even men you would not expect it from.

Peer pressure - yes, it is disappointing. And it is
something my husband struggles with. He was bullied at school (started young, because he wore glasses) and became a bit of a people pleaser due to that, desperate to fit in. It’s something that probably took me point out to him but he does now see it and acknowledge it but it is difficult to change. So he does bow to peer pressure quite a bit. However, he and a lot of other men, probably don’t see things like strip clubs as unethical. Aside from the cheating aspect of it, many (probably most) men don’t think about the ethics are regards consent and coercion etc. And I don’t think this is a male thing particularly. I’m 46 now but in my teens and 20s spent time in strip clubs on nights out when clubs shut. The treatment of the women didn’t occur to any of us. We all just assumed they enjoyed doing it and made good money from it. There is much more awareness now, which is obviously a good thing, but obviously men try not to think about it too much as it gets in the way of what they want to do.

I found it interesting a couple of posters who said that men full of bravado on the flight to Prague / in pub on first night, were very quiet and shame faced at the end of the holiday. I’d be interested to know if this was because of guilt for cheating on their partners (whether that be massage / prostitution or “just” private dance), or because it was obvious that the women were not doing it of free will and they ethics of it was hard for them to reconcile with how they imagined it.

In my marriage, my husband is a hot blooded male who I know watches porn. I don’t think it’s excessive, and it’s nothing extreme. I’m not a so called “cool wife”; It makes me jealous and I don’t like it, but I’ve learned to accept it. Because what’s the alternative? That he, as a mid 40s male, DOESNT like looking at naked females?

so no, I’m not a cool wife. I’m also not a controlling wife, however, if he was invited on a stag do to Prague, I think I would ask him not to go. And that is a direct consequence of his lack of backbone and people pleasing tendencies that mean he would be liable to get swept along and do things he wouldn’t normally do / would regret. And I think he would understand this. He’s done things once before for these reasons and risked our marriage, so he’s lost the privilege of having my unwavering trust.

And I’m not absolving him of responsibility and saying he’d be “led astray” by his bad boy friends. He would absolutely be doing these things becuase he wanted to do them. But wanting to do them at a base level and getting swept along and encouraged by unsavoury friends means it’s much more likely to happen than simply “wanting to do them”.

a male wanting to have sex with a beautiful Eastern European girl when on holiday - I think most men would “want” that to be honest, and I think many women are being hugely naive to think that their husband would have absolutely no interest in that.

Men are fuelled by testosterone. Loads of them would want to do it. Yes, some of them have more back bone than others, others have better or worse friends, some of them can’t handle their drink, some of them find it difficult to stop a situation once it has been set in motion, and some of them don’t care and will do whatever they want if they think they won’t get found out, whereas others will go down this route and then be wracked with guilt afterwards.

Personally, I can think of nothing worse than going on holiday and letting a stranger insert a body part into me. Whereas for an awful lot of men that’s the entire goal of the trip. And that’s a huge fundamental difference between women and men. And there’s no point in pretending it doesn’t exist.

Anyway, from the sounds of the OPs update (husband saying that the group went somewhere without the texting friend, and Burger King photo) it sounds like possibly the strip club was the extent of it.

Not ideal, but could be much worse.

As regards the ejaculating in his pants, yes, it is horrible. I would absolutely hate that. And what on earth was she doing to illicit such a strong, hands free reaction? Probably something quite extreme.

I’m 46 now but in my teens and 20s spent time in strip clubs on nights out when clubs shut. The treatment of the women didn’t occur to any of us. We all just assumed they enjoyed doing it and made good money from it.

I'm nearly 40, and have a very different perspective, having been briefly trafficked into the sex industry as an underage teenager. So the treatment of women has always occurred to me. It must be nice to have been so blissfully ignorant though.

It makes me jealous and I don’t like it, but I’ve learned to accept it. Because what’s the alternative? That he, as a mid 40s male, DOESNT like looking at naked females?

The alternative is using his imagination, or looking at you, a naked female, during sex, I would've thought. Not watching women who are potentially being raped or coerced, are in pain, physically uncomfortable, or just don't really want to do it. Personally, I wouldn't put up with that, and it's very sad that, despite being unhappy with it, you feel you need to grin and bear it because he neeeeeds to look at strange naked flesh getting pounded.

a male wanting to have sex with a beautiful Eastern European girl when on holiday - I think most men would “want” that to be honest, and I think many women are being hugely naive to think that their husband would have absolutely no interest in that.

Maybe it's because my husband wasn't short of willing partners before we got together, so he doesn't have some 'scarcity mindset' and doesn't consider getting laid to be an accomplishment (especially if you have to pay for it), or maybe he's just a decent man... But unless he was single and they were just two people randomly connecting in a bar, with no money changing hands, he would never 'want to have sex with a beautiful Eastern European girl' on holiday, no.

I think it's a shame that men's behaviour gets excused away, and women put up with things that make them unhappy, because they think they can't expect any better. Going to strip clubs, and causing issues like the ones OP is struggling with shouldn't be something that's considered automatically acceptable in a relationship.

devonsevon11 · Today 11:43

OtterlyAstounding · Today 11:36

I’m 46 now but in my teens and 20s spent time in strip clubs on nights out when clubs shut. The treatment of the women didn’t occur to any of us. We all just assumed they enjoyed doing it and made good money from it.

I'm nearly 40, and have a very different perspective, having been briefly trafficked into the sex industry as an underage teenager. So the treatment of women has always occurred to me. It must be nice to have been so blissfully ignorant though.

It makes me jealous and I don’t like it, but I’ve learned to accept it. Because what’s the alternative? That he, as a mid 40s male, DOESNT like looking at naked females?

The alternative is using his imagination, or looking at you, a naked female, during sex, I would've thought. Not watching women who are potentially being raped or coerced, are in pain, physically uncomfortable, or just don't really want to do it. Personally, I wouldn't put up with that, and it's very sad that, despite being unhappy with it, you feel you need to grin and bear it because he neeeeeds to look at strange naked flesh getting pounded.

a male wanting to have sex with a beautiful Eastern European girl when on holiday - I think most men would “want” that to be honest, and I think many women are being hugely naive to think that their husband would have absolutely no interest in that.

Maybe it's because my husband wasn't short of willing partners before we got together, so he doesn't have some 'scarcity mindset' and doesn't consider getting laid to be an accomplishment (especially if you have to pay for it), or maybe he's just a decent man... But unless he was single and they were just two people randomly connecting in a bar, with no money changing hands, he would never 'want to have sex with a beautiful Eastern European girl' on holiday, no.

I think it's a shame that men's behaviour gets excused away, and women put up with things that make them unhappy, because they think they can't expect any better. Going to strip clubs, and causing issues like the ones OP is struggling with shouldn't be something that's considered automatically acceptable in a relationship.

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I’m so very sorry you were trafficked into the sex industry.

Understandably you have had a very different experience to me.

I was visiting strip clubs as a young girl in the late 90s, before the internet. I had no knowledge of anything like that and yes, I probably was blissfully ignorant.

I’m sorry for what you’ve been through.

OtterlyAstounding · Today 11:50

devonsevon11 · Today 11:43

I’m so very sorry you were trafficked into the sex industry.

Understandably you have had a very different experience to me.

I was visiting strip clubs as a young girl in the late 90s, before the internet. I had no knowledge of anything like that and yes, I probably was blissfully ignorant.

I’m sorry for what you’ve been through.

Eh, it's fine! It was a very long time ago. But it does give me a somewhat more unique perspective on the worst of what the industry has to offer. It also means I think I'm fairly good at telling when a man is lying about being the kind of guy who'd go to a strip club/brothel/watch porn, and when they're actually not that type of guy.

I'm aware a majority of men are just sleazy to some extent as you said, but at the same time, it's not naive (as other pp have said on this thread) to believe that for many men, that's just not in their nature. Also, as you say, a lot of men aren't that fussed but want to impress their mates, so put on an act of bravado and go along with it.

So I think it's entirely reasonable for women to expect better of men than so often is, on these threads. Definitely not 'ridiculously high standards', as someone else said, to expect them not to go to strip clubs!

WallaceinAnderland · Today 17:44

This is why I don't understand any woman that supports the sex worker industry. Whether it is watching porn or going to clubs, there is no way to know whether or not those women are there of their own free will.

I can't understand any woman that condones this and accepts it as part of their partner's life. To me, it's horrific and I would not want to be with a man who was partaking of any of it.

I also don't agree that peer pressure exists. Your husbands wouldn't 'succumb' to peer pressure to do something they didn't want to do would they, like giving a man a blow job if they're straight. They just wouldn't do it. Any woman who believes a man only did something sexual out of peer pressure is a fool imo.

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