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Is it genetic?

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Beansandneedles · 13/03/2024 09:49

Is there some biological reason why males stereotypically don't seem to see clutter/mess? And can't find things when they're looking for them?

Genuine question.

There was a study a few years ago which discovered men from all cultures/generations were less likely to wake because of a baby crying than a woman (more so if the woman was a mother). So I'm wondering if it's something like that?

I have a DS (5) and DD (2) and can already see that she seems to be more observant than him (i.e. moving a toy, going around it or even putting it away rather than just standing on it and not even noticing it is there). If sent to find something she'll come back with it whereas he'll do a cursory glance and then give up.

Is it to do with biology? Are they simply not as observant? Appreciate there will be exceptions to every rule, especially considering people who self identify etc. But just thinking basically and going on stereotypes here. Thoughts?

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Watchkeys · 14/03/2024 12:54

CurlewKate · 14/03/2024 12:49

I do often wonder about the trope of landladies preferring men as lodgers because they're tidier. Is it possible that the expectation of men is so low that any tidiness or cleanliness looks amazing? Like men being seen as wonderful fathers because they occasionally change a nappy?

No, because then landladies would still end up with more mess when they took on male lodgers, and so would still prefer female ones. Landladies don't choose lodgers based on their expectations; they choose them according to how good they actually are to live with.

Beansandneedles · 16/03/2024 08:14

CurlewKate · 14/03/2024 12:49

I do often wonder about the trope of landladies preferring men as lodgers because they're tidier. Is it possible that the expectation of men is so low that any tidiness or cleanliness looks amazing? Like men being seen as wonderful fathers because they occasionally change a nappy?

oh gawd yeah, ughh!!

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Iwasafool · 16/03/2024 09:20

CurlewKate · 14/03/2024 12:49

I do often wonder about the trope of landladies preferring men as lodgers because they're tidier. Is it possible that the expectation of men is so low that any tidiness or cleanliness looks amazing? Like men being seen as wonderful fathers because they occasionally change a nappy?

I don't think that was the case with my grandmother, as I said I was talking about her in the 50s and 60s and those young men would have done national service and that probably had a big part to play in it. I don't think you are allowed to be dirty/untidy in the military. She wasn't one to put up with things, GF was thrown out in the 40s and let's face it divorce for working class women was rare back then.

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