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Support thread for survivors of childhood sexual abuse PART 4

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CailinDana · 09/05/2012 12:22

The first three parts of this thread:
Part 1
Part 2
Part 3

The purpose of these threads is to allow survivors of childhood sexual abuse, their partners, friends, or parents, to talk in a safe place about what they think and feel. Nothing is off limits or taboo, just say what you want to say.

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Dirona · 29/05/2012 18:59

Cailin, freds nearly full, again, :(

dottyspotty2 · 29/05/2012 19:01

Good luck after yourself first x

Dirona · 29/05/2012 19:09

Sorry I posted something thats disappeared.

I'm sorting housing officer complaint out tomorrow. I posted and ran, sorry, I was on my way to where I was raped last year, with friends, it was not as bad as I thought, we went swimming and are going back to camp tonight.

I'm glad you started this thread too Cailin, it's great to have somewhere where people "get" what I'm talking about, you have made a difference to many people.

Enjoy your pizza Dotty.

dottyspotty2 · 29/05/2012 20:05

Thanks was good don't enjoy our night out as such but makes a change bit too semsitive and jumpy for my own good just now. Glad your sorting the HO out she needs taking up a dark alley if you ask me gobby cow (I don't talk like this in RL honest) x

Amitolamummy · 29/05/2012 21:46

I just need to ask you all something. Do you manage to have sympathy or empathy for someones whose parent is ill or dying or dead for that matter? Obviously if you have a good relationship with your parents you probably can.
A friend has discovered one of their parent may be terminally ill, they're not sure yet. I can't comprehend how they feel or even begin to understand how devasted someone would be about that.
I think when mine die it I will feel relief and just the tiniest saddest that there was no hope of them ever truly apologising for what they did.
I feel such a weird cold freak! I should be able to feel sad for someone else about something like this but i'm just thinking so what, at least you had a mum in the first place, think yourself fucking lucky. Thats not nice is it. I don't think i'm a very nice person at all :(

Belleflowers · 29/05/2012 22:17

mmm I can sort of see what you mean Amitola, I havent really thought much about that tbh

just back from first therapy session, quite intense and exhausting but your point about 'there was no hope of them ever truly apologising for what they did' kept coming up in my session again and again and how even if I now find the voice that I never felt I had during childhood/adolescence, that any words I would say to them wouldnt make a damn bit of difference

but my sister, just spoken to her, reckons that actually, in their lives, parents who have done stuff like that to their kids will face difficulties of all sorts, unlinked to us, but just daily life may be 'made' somehow more difficult - karma if you will, or the grace of God, whatever you believe it, there is no way on this earth that these people will have an easier life than us, having CHOSEN to do what they did all those years ago, for such a long time too - i think that bamboo stick stayed behind the sofa for 5 yrs FFS stupid stupid idiot mother

eugh

but printed out an edited version of my initial post on this thread to update therapist on what i thought the flashbacks were coming from. She validated me - yes, it was abuse. And said I should develop my writing more, she was impressed??? but i told her it was easier for me to write than speak, hence the whole issue with my voice not feeling valid in childhood, so writing better for me.

She also did an amazing meditation at the end, a part of it was where we should feel if a panic is coming over us, to feel our feet rooted in the earth below us, we are strong, we are not drifters at the mercy of those who tried to control us in the past.

Belleflowers · 29/05/2012 22:19

sorry amitola, what did you say to your friend? have you had therapy before?

Amitolamummy · 29/05/2012 22:27

I just posted a supportive message, haven't seen her yet. Yes had tons of therapy :o would be dead now without it. Had lots of different counsellors though due to finances and some were more damaging.

It sounds like your session went well and the therapist sounds good. I do a grounding thing a bit like that, but imagine warm light dripping onto my head and flowing through my body into the ground. It leaves me feeling happy, calm and normal again.

I blocked everything out for 5 years and it came back bits at a time. I've recently been remembering how awful my mother and sister always were to me, to the point that I preferred being around my father who abused me - bit fooked up that!

Belleflowers · 29/05/2012 22:32

i like the warm light idea.

She said something similar about imagining my heart was a big white light.

Do you have much contact now with any of them? see them often? if I had my way, I would never want to hear her voice again or see her..that sounds awful...but it's not going to be that easy for me, so will have to find a way

dottyspotty2 · 29/05/2012 22:43

I don't really know personally I do know if my bf's mum died it would really upset me she wants me to go visit her but I cant find it difficult with rl relationships me. I blocked most things out for well over 20 years probably why I've been so badly affected by the disclosure.

Dirona · 29/05/2012 22:43

Belle, thats sounds brilliant, so glad it went well. A few of us like writing, it's great for either the abuse or complete fantasy. The grounding sounds good too, it does really help for flashbacks. I like to think of being a tree in water and having the water flow over me, with the water being the flashback.

Amitola, I think with everything you're going through you might just be empathied out. My gran died of terminal cancer last year and it was unbelievably confusing. All you can do is be supportive.

Amitolamummy · 29/05/2012 22:43

They came back into my life recently despite a community resolution order saying to stay away. My mother discovered I split from my ex so just knocked on the door one day and I didn't have the strength to get shot of her again. Her and my sister then did their usual shit for a few weeks and i nearly had a breakdown through it. I have got shot of them again now though, not sure how long for but I had to involvethe police again.

It took me years to see my mother for the evil, emotionally abusive, selfish, cruel and heartless cow that she really is. Growing up i parented her so I had a lot of guilt and felt oblidged to listen to still do it as an adult.

No doesn't sound awful at all. I wish mine dead a lot, which sounds evil but she really does deserve it. You will find a way of getting her out of your life, it might just take time to work through things first. It sounds like she manipulates you and that is a hard pattern to break

Amitolamummy · 29/05/2012 22:45

That makes no sense! remove the listen bit haha

Amitolamummy · 29/05/2012 22:47

I think you hit the nail on the head Dirona. In fact I want to stamp my feet and shout 'wheres my sympathy, god damn it, who gives a bugger bollocks (excuse language) about me'
This is a recurring theme in my life and funnily enough i think it stems from my parents haha

Amitolamummy · 29/05/2012 22:58

Sorry to hear about your nan, sorry went off on a self indulgent rant there. My aunt had breast cancer last year and just got the all clear but i haven't contacted her. Maybe I should, but she says i'm a liar and my father is a wonderful man. She wasn't there for me when i was struggling to stay alive so why the hell should i do it for her. I've just realised i'm a little full of anger right now. Sorry for ranting again

dottyspotty2 · 29/05/2012 23:08

Is she your paternal aunt if so might explain her attitude x

dottyspotty2 · 29/05/2012 23:18

Not saying it's right far from it both my surviving Aunts and Uncle have never liked IT something about him didn't sit right they said put it this way he stayed at my Aunt and Uncles once when my cousin as about 3 I was about 7 he was never invited back again take what you want from that they want him to get a custodial sentence x

Amitolamummy · 29/05/2012 23:21

No she is my mothers sister. She never even spoke to me about it. My mother was going to leave him when i spoke to her about it all, think she was waiting for an excuse, but when my sister and aunt said it wasn't true she turned on me again. Thats why i get so angry, the man doesn't have to defend himself because they are doing the work for him. Idiots!!

dottyspotty2 · 29/05/2012 23:29

It's so unfair we have the life sentence here with these sick bastards and yet people who have no way of knowing what really happened take the abusers side and paint them lily white IMHO their just as bad as the abuser if not worse.

Dirona · 29/05/2012 23:57

Too true Dotty.

it's easier to blame us than accept these kind of horrors happen in Britain.

Dirona · 30/05/2012 03:05

I am snuggled in a sleeping bag, lying out in the open, next to a log camp fire, under a tree, next to a loch, listening to the nesting coots, swans, moorhens and grebes and the odd occassional fish plop, watching the sky lighten and the mist float across the loch.

I have taken some amazing photo's and feel very at one and connected. This is one of those "life" moments, I had to share as you lot have helped me so much and I wish you could see/feel the beauty here. bans self for lufflyness :o xx

Dirona · 30/05/2012 03:07

A cow just coughed :o

Belleflowers · 30/05/2012 07:26

dirona, LOVE your description, oh my it is so calming to read that. I found a meditation podcast audio thing off iTunes last night and one of the sounds was rain on a tent roof. It was bliss to listen to.

A real life moment for sure. Helps me lots to think about and find beauty in nature at least somewhere each day

dottyspotty2 · 30/05/2012 07:43

Morning all going for breakfast with DD1 this morning she texted me last night to ask if I wanted to go. Not been out with her for ages will give me a reason to get dressed before mid afternoon for once.

CailinDana · 30/05/2012 07:45

Morning all. I really laughed at "a cow just coughed" Dirona Grin. It sounds gorgeous where you are.

DS and I are off out for the day so I won't be around, but I hope you all have a good day. Belle I'm really glad to see that the session went well.

I'm going to start the new thread now just in case it's needed while I'm out, just move over to that one when it's needed.

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