The Brave Babes Battle Bus - Carry On Past The Christmas Party (part 1)

[TheMousefaceBeforeChristMouse]

Hello.

Welcome to The Brave Babes Bus. I'm Mouseface and I used to abuse alcohol and to be honest, there is always a risk that I'll do it again.

This is a bus journey for those who drink too much, or drink now and then, not at all, or actually aren't quite sure what their drinking means to them.

Come and meet the other Brave Babes, everyone is welcome.

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JWN's original thread

oh well mouse, i spose' you can at least count yourself lucky that you arnt mad enough not to recognise a twat when you meet one!

really, these people really wind me up!, they are dealing with fragile, vulnerable people and come out with such shit!, 'yeah, i know its tough you had your leg blown off, just think about the starving in africa though'

i am having the day from hell workwise, im pissed off and want to go home and cant see it happening for at least another couple of hours - i work with dh and right now, every time i look at him across the office i get a violent urge to over and smack him one right in teh kisser! , fuck, he has annoyed me today!, i would like to stuff one of the baubles our little office girl has spent ALL FUCKING DAY putting up, right up his big ole arse! thanks girls, i feel better already!!

Ha ha ha ha ha ha!! PMSL at your feelings towards DH JWN

, i really do love him, but he can be pompous git at times!

Laughing now JWN as I have visions of you sitting looking at DH with steam coming out of your ears whilst typing on MN

What a twat the GP was Mouse. We can all sympathise and be concerned at whats going on in Africa and other parts of the world but also it is whats going on in our hearts/homes/lives that make us feel happy or sad or anxious etc

I an meeting my XP (emotionally abusive one) for a couple of drinks tonight. He is being very nice at the moment but I have made it very clear that there is no going back this time. I mentioned a Xmas present I wanted to get for the DC's and he has got one really cheap. Looking forward to a catch up but I will not be getting back with him

Forthe

Extremely patronising - I could definitely go off you if you continue in this vein.

You will notice that at no point do I ask you to prove that it is not an illness. I aks you not to represent an opinion on an unproven issue as fact.

I then go on to suggest that, AS A MODEL, the illness hypothesis is very useful because many alcoholics experience alcoholism as a mental illness i.e. it is a quirk in their mind where the normal standards do not apply. Is it an illness or is it not? It doesn't actually matter. What matters - given that it kills people - is that a given individual has an approach to it that helps him or her to overcome it. If he or she chooses to work on the basis that it is an illness that is, frankly, nothing to do with you and certainly does not need your ratification.

"I understant that you (M) may have go this notion from others who have not looked into how this disease notion came about. And possibly at a point when you felt vulneralbe about yourself." No - as I have explained elsewhere and at length, I find that it works for me conceptually. I do not care about its literal truth or otherwise - I care whether it fits my experience. It does, so I go with it.

Your faith or otherwise in the tutorial system is also of limited interest to me. It's just another model that works for me - if it doesn't work for you, try something else.

Thurso. over the moon. Was thinking about you today.

Mouse. Good thing you are a strong enough woman to let it wash over you. rat.

Wasindie. Whether you agree or not, vulnerable people are liable to be influenced by being told that they have an illness that simply does not exist. It is important that everyone knows that they do not have an illness that doesn't exist. Sorry if you don't like it, but I don't want anyone tricked into thinking that they have a non-existent believe because that might cause them to drink. Wasindie, I am going to be strict about that whether you like it or not, because I consider that to be very very important in controlling alcohol.

MIFLAW

xx

Mouse

Don't worry, no big deal.

I just prefer to get the chance to choose who I "out" myself to rather than having it done for me.

MIFLAW on your behalf - that was out of order Forthe.

mouse Doc is a twat - ignore him and see your GP who knows you and do tell him what went on.

I had to come home and have a nap before the onslaught of another meeting with all/some strangers tonight. I don't feel up to saying much but plan to listen very carefully to other people

Dreading another sweat drenched sleepless night but I know it has to be done to get this shit out of my system.

And FWIW I do think I have an illness - a mental illness that is alcoholism x

Hi Silver! Don't worry about having to speak - I didn't open my mouth for months weeks, and some people take years!

Some people refer to it as an 'ism' rather than an illness. Alcohol is part of the problem, but the bigger one is the 'ism' - why we can't control ourselves around it. And that 'ism' is common to everyone with a problem, call it an illness or whatever.

Silver - Have you got anything to help you sleep? Or is that tomorrow? Sorry, head like a sieve again.

Warm bath, good book and a clean bed always work for me!!

(not saying your beds not clean!! )

Rachel - I totally missed your post earlier, hello!

desire - I text Red this morning, no reply. Maybe she's ahem, busy??

Zany - DO NOT GET SUCKED INTO HIS WORLD!!!! Arms length if you really must meet him.

Docs is tomo Mouse and I put clean sheets on bed on Sunday and promptly soaked them with sweat last night - no point changing them just to sweat on new ones tonight - yuk but DP off to France tonight after I get back so only me to wallow in the bed. Now I know why they put plastic under sheets on the beds in re-hab

Took 4 herbal Nytol last night and made not one jot of difference. Actually dozed of and woke up screaming at one point my dreams were so vivid and scary!

Ah well - if anyone's up late you may find me on here in the wee small hours.

x

Hi everyone, loads to respond to - but flying in and out to AA, babysitter will be here shortly. I am really nervous, tired and worried. But going is better than not going - I have thought of a hundred reasons not to, of course - going to make myself go there.

Wasindie - How is your pain now?? Thinking of you. Back pain is hell!

Silver - you know the drill, it will get easier, it's just shit when YOU are going through it.

noteven - GO!!! You know the drill too. You need to go. And go and go and go some more.

If it helps you, then go. YOU CAN DO IT!!

Dont worry Mouse I won't get sucked in, my thoughts are with neighbour people who will treat me with respect/love/kindness - whenever that is

Good your still going Noteven even though it sounds like your trying to presuade yourself out of it

Sorry to hear your having bad night Silver. Its horrible when you have a bad/scary dream even as an adult. It always takes me ages to realise it is just a dream and lie there half awake/asleep terrified

Wasindie - Grumpy is allowed when you are in pain. Hopefully, the girls will give you a peaceful night! Fingers crossed!!

Have you tried hot then cold then hot again?? I use that sometimes on my lower back, where my pelvis is. Equal amounts of each.

hmm!, wasindi - i would be inclined to send a card and photo of the girls - just keep kind of plugging away at them that this a family which is here to stay!

dh is doing my bloody head in this evening!, i swear to god that men have periods!, bloody grumpy git!! i have volunteered him to play 'parents night' football with one nephew tomorrow (dad is a no hoper scum bag! ) and then take another one to his football match early on sunday morning! ,perhaps that has something to do with it!